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Re: Deep Freeze + PaperCut + Windows profiles

From:

Geng Hua Lin <[log in to unmask]>

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Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]>

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Thu, 19 Mar 2015 20:44:03 +0000

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I agree Data Igloo is a good solution if you have a big enough HD. You'll probably need to set up a script to remove all the old profiles on a semester basis.

Geng

> On Mar 19, 2015, at 4:14 PM, Dan Alexander <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Faronics Data Igloo might actually be what you want...
>
> "retain vital data across restarts on a Frozen workstation in a Thawed
> partition. The operating system is still on a Frozen partition and remains
> fully protected. With Data Igloo user created files, documents, settings,
> favorites, AV Updates or even entire user profiles are retained across
> reboots"
>
>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Dan Alexander <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> Any chance using a thaw space for that part of the profile?
>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Will Martin <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>> In our computer labs, we currently use Deep Freeze.[1] It lets us grant
>>> our users full administrative rights, without worrying about malware,
>>> viruses, and such, because any changes the user makes are wiped out when
>>> they log off.
>>>
>>> A couple of years ago, the campus as a whole switched to PaperCut for
>>> managing print jobs.[2] This maintains separate print queues for each
>>> student, so that when they swipe their student card at the print release
>>> station, they see only their own print jobs. Convenient! At least
>>> compared to Pharos, the old system.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, there's a nasty side-effect, which is that it takes a
>>> loooooong time to log into the lab computers. Generally 5-6 minutes,
>>> sometimes as much as 10. What's happening is:
>>>
>>> 1) A student logs in with their Active Directory credentials
>>> 2) The computer checks for a user profile and doesn't find one
>>> 3) The computer creates a new windows profile for the student (slooow!)
>>> 4) When they log off, Deep Freeze wipes out the profile.
>>>
>>> The fact that the computer has to download, install, and configure the
>>> PaperCut print drivers makes Step 3 even slower. They're per-user.
>>> They're baked into the user profile, so they get created fresh every time
>>> and wiped out again afterwards.
>>>
>>> As a recent comment on Yik-Yak put it: "Patience is waiting for the
>>> library computers to log you on."
>>>
>>> We're currently on Windows 8 (yuck), but the problem occurred with 7 as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> We've talked about removing Deep Freeze and simply placing the computers
>>> on restricted accounts with no permissions to install software, etc. That
>>> would *partially* address it, because profiles would no longer be wiped
>>> out. As long as students went to the same computer over and over, they'd
>>> only be faced with a long logon the first time. But, of course, it's a lab
>>> and there's no guarantee you can get the same computer all the time, so
>>> that's a poor solution at best.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] http://www.faronics.com/products/deep-freeze/enterprise/
>>> [2] http://www.papercut.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dan Alexander
>> Technology Coordinator
>> Northeast Kansas Library System
>>
>> 785-838-4090
>> 4317 W. 6th St.
>> Lawrence, KS 66049
>>
>> *WANT ME TO REMOTE INTO YOUR COMPUTER?*
>> Download the NEKLS hosted ScreenConnect software to your computer from
>> this link:
>>
>> *goo.gl/Lwg33y <http://goo.gl/Lwg33y>*
>>
>> Once you have run the software, NEKLS staff will be able to access your
>> computer.
>
>
> --
> Dan Alexander
> Technology Coordinator
> Northeast Kansas Library System
>
> 785-838-4090
> 4317 W. 6th St.
> Lawrence, KS 66049
>
> *WANT ME TO REMOTE INTO YOUR COMPUTER?*
> Download the NEKLS hosted ScreenConnect software to your computer from this
> link:
>
> *goo.gl/Lwg33y <http://goo.gl/Lwg33y>*
>
> Once you have run the software, NEKLS staff will be able to access your
> computer.

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