I think the question of relevance based upon a recent incident is because
this is not a new community statement.  Code4Lib already has a statement
signally the values of our community about providing a safe place for
anyone, no matter their genetic or lifestyle differences.  This is on the
About page for Code4Lib:

"Code4Lib is dedicated to providing a harassment-free community experience
for everyone regardless of gender, sexual orientation, disability, physical
appearance, body size, race, or religion. For more information, please see
our emerging CodeofConduct4Lib
<https://github.com/code4lib/antiharassment-policy/blob/master/code_of_conduct.md>
."

The question about an incident was raised because there are already a
simple statement and preventative measures in place.  I think there is also
concern that a new statement may be politically motivated.  If politically
motivated, the new statement may be excluding anyone with different
political views, not to mention our international members.

From what has been discussed, it appears that 1) there has been an
incident, and 2) the current statement isn't comprehensive enough for most
(all?) members.  Even the shorter drafts of the new statement are longer
and more comprehensive than our current statement.

Given the wording of our current statement, we should probably define
"bigotry, intolerance, hatred" since our current statement clearly defines
harassment.

I agree, it's been great to have so many people willing to discuss this and
contribute to the final draft!  Yay for community involvement!

Michelle


On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Eric Phetteplace <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> I think whether or not there have been incidents of harassment is actually
> pretty irrelevant. It's about signaling what the values of our community
> are. No one should wait for harassment to occur before doing something
> about it when preventative measures are available and not particularly
> onerous. I appreciate everyone's willingness to discuss but there's
> precious little downside to having a community statement and a lot of good
> that can be done.
>
> Best,
> Eric
>
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Michelle Lubatti <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Thanks, Matt.
> >
> > I'll venture to answer these, too.
> >
> > - Have there been recent incidents of "... bigotry, intolerance, hatred,
> > harassment, and violence in Code4Lib" that warrant a re-iterated
> statement?
> >
> > Kate answered this one for us earlier when she announced that she had
> been
> > a victim of harassment on this list.  I did not think any incidents had
> > happened, since I had not received any emails with inappropriate
> > discourse.  Kate did not divulge details in her response to the list,
> and I
> > did not see the email interaction myself, so it's possible the
> interaction
> > was off the list by a fellow member of the list (or it just got lost in
> my
> > inbox).
> >
> > - What are C4L's desired outcomes of "diversity, equity, and inclusion",
> > and will such a statement improve the attainment of such ends? Is the
> goal
> > of C4L to promote "diversity, equity, and inclusion" within C4L, the
> > software technology community at large, or beyond?
> >
> > My impression is that this statement is meant to reiterate that the
> > incident is not supported by list members, and that all members should
> feel
> > safe to interact on this list.
> >
> > - What constitutes "bigotry, intolerance, hatred, harassment, and
> violence"
> > is not always obvious, and often needs to be teased out through reasoned
> > dialogue.
> >
> > Very true.  Even Tim Kaine (the vice presidential candidate for one of
> the
> > political parties) commented recently that hate speech may be considered
> > opinions, and that opinions require no apology.  Unless this new
> diversity
> > statement will change it, the Code of Conduct lists the following as a
> > definition of harassment:
> >
> > "Harassment is understood as any behavior that threatens another person
> or
> > group, or produces an unsafe environment. It includes offensive verbal
> > comments or non-verbal expressions related to gender, gender identity,
> > gender expression, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance,
> > body size, race, age, religious beliefs, sexual or discriminatory images
> in
> > public spaces (including online), deliberate intimidation, stalking,
> > following, harassing photography or recording, sustained disruption of
> > talks or other events, inappropriate physical contact, and unwelcome
> sexual
> > attention."
> >
> > An openness to reasoned dialogue is ideal, and I think the code of
> conduct
> > allows for this to a point.  If one or both parties of a discussion is
> > being (or perceived as) offensive, and the interaction ends immediately
> > after the (real or perceived) offense is pointed out, then no further
> > action is taken against the individual(s). At least, this is how I
> > understand it.
> >
> > For Code4Lib email lists purposes, I don't think reasoned (or
> unreasonable)
> > dialogue is part of the email list's purpose.  I admit I have seen some,
> > and the inclusion of "this year's contentious election season" in the
> draft
> > statement is already excluding our international members.
> >
> > - If inclusion spans "all technologists", then excluding those who
> dissent
> > or present points of view bordering on "bigotry, intolerance, hatred,
> > harassment, and violence" will be silenced, and likely to (further)
> develop
> > resentment and anger, leading to further division. Is it better to
> exclude
> > such people through language as forcefully as possible, or promote an
> > environment of reasoned dialogue and relating to the "other"? When people
> > are silenced they may go underground, and is it better to be underground
> or
> > in the open?
> >
> > I think this is part of the problem in the U.S. right now.  So many
> people
> > have been silenced and mocked, that when they finally began to speak they
> > came on stronger than they should have and in surprise the "status quo"
> > voices retaliated, which incited disrespectful speech to continue and
> > worsen on both sides.  I know many good librarians, who said some very
> > cruel things immediately after the election.  Maybe if we hadn't silenced
> > so many voices, if we had encouraged them to speak and to have a safe
> place
> > to work through their ideas and dialogue with others, we may not have
> > witnessed the shock and cruelty we have witnessed.
> >
> > - Will this re-iterated statement promote self-monitoring and
> > self-censorship and thereby decrease diversity, one of the primary values
> > of C4L?
> >
> > I hope not, but that was my first thought, too.  Of all times, this is
> when
> > affirmation, unity, and dialogue are needed.  I think how we word the
> > statement will do a lot to either 1) promote self-monitoring &
> > self-censorship, or 2) promote unity and respect for everyone.
> >
> > I agree with Christina & Kyle that a shorter statement will have more
> force
> > and that removing time-sensitive elements will make our statement appear
> > stronger and not just a knee-jerk reaction to political events.
> >
> > I recommend considering 1) use the second paragraph (which explains why
> we
> > as technologists value respect & empathy toward all people) and the last
> > paragraph, without the final sentence; or 2) just use the last paragraph,
> > without the final sentence.
> >
> > Either of these would give a concise, forceful statement.  Removing the
> > election references will make it clear the statement includes everyone,
> and
> > not just certain voters or supporters of a political candidate.  The
> > history paragraph seems to celebrate Code4Lib, rather than emphasize the
> > statement of what we value.
> >
> > The second to last sentence of the last paragraph ("There is no place for
> > bigotry, intolerance, hatred, harassment, or
> > violence in Code4Lib.") should be either 1) defined, 2) simplified, or 3)
> > removed.  The Code of Conduct defines harassment, so maybe just include
> the
> > word "harassment" if the other terms aren't defined?
> >
> > Thank you for all the work and thought everyone has put into this,
> > especially Bohyun!
> >
> > Michelle
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 9:03 AM, Matthew Mikitka <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Bohun and others,
> > >
> > > I am writing this from north of the border, and although I am not a US
> > > citizen, the political activities of the US are certainly relevant to
> > > Canada. I believe that our social groups, including C4L, are forums
> > through
> > > which we think through and enact political activity. I wish to
> articulate
> > > some of my thoughts in point-form to promote dialogue on a diverse
> > > perspective to the problems addressed in the re-iterated statement.
> > >
> > > - Have there been recent incidents of "... bigotry, intolerance,
> hatred,
> > > harassment, and violence in Code4Lib" that warrant a re-iterated
> > statement?
> > >
> > > - What are C4L's desired outcomes of "diversity, equity, and
> inclusion",
> > > and will such a statement improve the attainment of such ends? Is the
> > goal
> > > of C4L to promote "diversity, equity, and inclusion" within C4L, the
> > > software technology community at large, or beyond?
> > >
> > > - What constitutes "bigotry, intolerance, hatred, harassment, and
> > > violence" is not always obvious, and often needs to be teased out
> through
> > > reasoned dialogue.
> > >
> > > - If inclusion spans "all technologists", then excluding those who
> > dissent
> > > or present points of view bordering on "bigotry, intolerance, hatred,
> > > harassment, and violence" will be silenced, and likely to (further)
> > develop
> > > resentment and anger, leading to further division. Is it better to
> > exclude
> > > such people through language as forcefully as possible, or promote an
> > > environment of reasoned dialogue and relating to the "other"? When
> people
> > > are silenced they may go underground, and is it better to be
> underground
> > or
> > > in the open?
> > >
> > > - Will this re-iterated statement promote self-monitoring and
> > > self-censorship and thereby decrease diversity, one of the primary
> values
> > > of C4L?
> > >
> > > With regards,
> > > matt
> > > ________________________________________
> > > From: Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Kim,
> > > Bohyun <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:59
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Post-election statement draft - also waiting
> for
> > > merge
> > >
> > > Apologies for forgetting the spell-check! I was typing too fast. Here
> is
> > a
> > > version with less typos! : )
> > >
> > > Under ordinary circumstances, there shouldn't be a great need for
> > Code4Lib
> > > to reiterate our values of diversity, equity, and inclusion. However,
> > this
> > > year's contentious election season followed by many appalling acts of
> > hate
> > > around the country has left us with no choice but to re-affirm our
> > > unfaltering support and strong commitment to these fundamental values.
> > >
> > > As technologists, we always look for ways to make things work better.
> We
> > > love efficiency; we love elegance; we aspire to be free of any pain
> point
> > > or bug in everything we design and build. But we do this not for the
> sake
> > > of efficiency, elegance, and our deeply-rooted desire to improve
> things.
> > We
> > > do this for the sake of people. Our ultimate aspiration is to help
> people
> > > get things done with the tools we create with delight. For this, we try
> > to
> > > understand our users with all their differences in race, sex, sexual
> > > orientation, gender identity, religion, disability, age, genetic
> > > information, veteran status, ancestry, national or ethnic origin,
> > language,
> > > socio-economic background, citizenship status, and more. This is why we
> > > rely on empathy as one of the most important guiding principles in all
> we
> > > do as technologists. Without our caring, our work as a developer,
> > designer,
> > > information specialist, and IT professional would be missing its heart.
> > >
> > > Code4Lib has a proud history of recognizing the lack of diversity in
> the
> > > technology sector as a serious problem and acting to address it
> head-on.
> > In
> > > the Code4Lib community, diversity, equity, and inclusion are not mere
> > > words. They underpin all we do from Diversity Scholarships, Newcomer
> > > Dinner, Code of Conduct, to our decision regarding where to host our
> next
> > > Code4Lib conference. They represent and reflect our shared and
> cherished
> > > understanding that we always solve difficult problems better together.
> > >
> > > As a community that deeply values diversity, equity, and inclusion,
> > > Code4Lib will always be a welcoming and safe community for all who are
> > > passionate about information and technology. Everyone in our community
> is
> > > valued and respected regardless of what they look like, what their
> faiths
> > > are, what disabilities they may have, how they identify their gender,
> who
> > > they love, where they come from, what language they speak, or where
> they
> > > live. There is no place for bigotry, intolerance, hatred, harassment,
> and
> > > violence in Code4Lib. Today, we stand together in our most forceful
> > support
> > > for diversity, equity, and inclusion.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Bohyun
> > >
> > >
> > > From: "Kim, Bohyun" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Date: Thursday, November 17, 2016 at 12:40 PM
> > > To: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Subject: Post-election statement draft - also waiting for merge
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > As promised, I issued a pull request with 5 files which includes my
> draft
> > > for the post-election statement from Code4Lib.
> > >
> > > Someone who has the write access to the C4L repo in Github, please
> merge.
> > > You can see the files here.
> > > https://github.com/code4lib/antiharassment-policy/pull/56/commits/
> > > 452570ec38b7becafc766c57b8916fa0f9981803
> > >
> > > My draft statement also below. You should be able to edit once merged.
> > > Thanks everyone for standing behind this idea!
> > >
> > > Under ordinary circumstances, there shouldn't be a great need for
> > Code4Lib
> > > to reiterate our values of diversity, equity, and inclusion. However,
> > this
> > > year's contentious election season followed by many appaling acts of
> hate
> > > around the country has left us with no choice but to re-affirm our
> > > unfaltering support and strong committment to these fundamental values.
> > >
> > > As technologists, we always look for ways to make things work better.
> We
> > > love efficiency; we love elegance; we aspire to be free of any pain
> point
> > > or bug in everything we design and build. But we do this not for the
> sake
> > > of efficiency, elegance, and our deeeply-rooted desire to improve
> things.
> > > We do this for the sake of people. Our ultimate aspiration is to help
> > > people get things done with the tools we create with delight. For this,
> > we
> > > try to understand our users with all their differences in race, sex,
> > sexual
> > > orientation, gender identity, religion, disability, age, genetic
> > > information, veteran status, ancestry, national or ethnic origin,
> > > launguage, socio-economic background, citizenship status, and more.
> This
> > is
> > > why we rely on emphathy as one of the most important guiding principles
> > in
> > > all we do as technologists. Wihtout our caring, our work as a
> developer,
> > > designer, information specialist, and IT professional would be missing
> > its
> > > heart.
> > >
> > > Code4Lib has a proud history of recognizing the lack of diversity in
> the
> > > technology sector as a serious problem and acting to address it
> head-on.
> > In
> > > the Code4Lib community, diversity, equity, and inclusion are not mere
> > > words. They underpin all we do from Diversity Scholarships, Newcomer
> > > Dinner, Code of Conduct, to our decision regarding where to host our
> next
> > > Code4Lib conference. They represent and reflect our shared and
> cherished
> > > understanding that we always solve difficult problems better together.
> > >
> > > As a community that deeply values diviersity, equity, and inclusion,
> > > Code4Lib will always be a welcoming and safe community for all who are
> > > passionate about infromation and technology. Everyone in our community
> is
> > > valued and respected regardless of what they look like, what their
> faiths
> > > are, what disabilities they may have, how they identify their gender,
> who
> > > they love, where they come from, what language they speak, or where
> they
> > > live. There is no place for bigotry, intolerance, hatred, harrassment,
> > and
> > > violence in Code4Lib. Today, we stand together in our most forceful
> > support
> > > for diversity, equity, and inclusion.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Bohyun
> > >
> > > --
> > > Bohyun Kim, MA, MSLIS
> > > Associate Director for Library Applications and Knowledge Systems
> > > University of Maryland, Baltimore | Health Sciences and Human Services
> > > Library
> > > [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> |
> 410-706-0405
> > >
> > >
> >
>