I am also interested in knowing this. Can you still include the T&Ds in
your IR even if students don't pay the OA fee? How did you make it? I would
appreciate it if you could include me in the email communication if you
decide to discuss it directly. Thank you!


Best,
Lucy

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 7:13 AM, James, Heather <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Margaret and Deborah,
>
> How do you bypass the ProQuest fee? Currently our Graduate School directs
> the whole process of submission for students, and they direct students to
> pay the $55. There seems to be an assumption that it's contractually
> obligated. I'd be interested to hear how you work around it - whether
> through this list or directly.
>
> Thanks!
> Heather
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Heller, Margaret
> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 9:35 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Are you paying royalty fees for the articles
> deposited to the institutional repository?
>
> I have experienced one publisher asking for a fee. It was a European
> journal. We don't have a budget for this, nor would I want to spend money
> on it. But it does happen. CCC cannot grant perpetual rights for an IR, but
> sometimes they can helpfully point you in the direction of the actual
> copyright holder. I have been able to get permission that way.
>
> (We tell students not to pay the ProQuest OA fee for their theses).
>
> Margaret Heller
> Digital Services Librarian
> 773-508-2686
>
> > On Apr 4, 2017, at 6:45 PM, Kyle Banerjee <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Gotta admit, I was taken aback by this. I don't see why we'd even
> > consider it. If we're paying fees, someone else should be doing the work.
> >
> > kyle
> >
> >> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Tiewei Liu <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Good points! It seems that most libraries are not paying royalty fees
> >> for the IR. The discussion is really helpful to us. Thank you all for
> >> involving in it!
> >>
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Lucy
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Fitchett, Deborah <
> >> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> What. What.
> >>>
> >>> I agree with Matt for journal articles etc: check SherpaRomeo to see
> >>> if there's another version the publisher allows.
> >>>
> >>> If there's no version allowed we just won't deposit to the IR. (Or
> >>> more precisely, it may be deposited to a 'dark archive' which we can
> >>> use for PBRF (govt funding based on research outputs) audit purposes
> >>> but never
> >> goes
> >>> public.)
> >>>
> >>> For theses, we require them all to be deposited OA into our IR in
> >>> the first place (embargoes allowed under specific circumstances) and
> >>> bypass ProQuest's whole money grab.
> >>>
> >>> We don't have money to waste buying back our own researchers' content!
> >>>
> >>> Deborah
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> >>> Of James, Heather
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, 5 April 2017 5:10 a.m.
> >>> To: [log in to unmask]
> >>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Are you paying royalty fees for the articles
> >>> deposited to the institutional repository?
> >>>
> >>> We do not pay any fees for including faculty work in the IR, but our
> >>> graduate students do have to pay a fee to ProQuest if they want
> >>> their thesis/dissertation deposited open access into the IR. I'm not
> >>> 100% clear on what this fee is for, so it's on my to-do list to
> >>> investigate
> >> further...
> >>>
> >>> Heather James
> >>>
> >>> Coordinator, Scholarly Communication & Digital Programs Raynor
> >>> Memorial Libraries Marquette University
> >>> 414-288-6295
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> >>> Of Tiewei Liu
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 11:31 AM
> >>> To: [log in to unmask]
> >>> Subject: [CODE4LIB] Are you paying royalty fees for the articles
> >> deposited
> >>> to the institutional repository?
> >>>
> >>> Hi everyone,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> We would like to know whether your libraries are paying royalty fees
> >>> to the publishers in order to include faculty's publications in your
> >>> institutional repositories. Can anyone help with this question?
> >>>
> >>> Thank you in advance for your help!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Lucy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> ------------------------------------------------
> >>> Tiewei (Lucy) Liu
> >>> IR and Metadata Librarian
> >>> Henry Madden Library
> >>> California State University, Fresno
> >>> 5200 N. Barton Ave., M/S ML34
> >>> Fresno, California 93740-8014
> >>> Tel: 559.278.1073 <(559)%20278-1073>
> >>> Fax: 559.278.7877 <(559)%20278-7877>
> >>>
> >>> Fresno State Digital Repository https://urldefense.proofpoint.
> com/v2/url?u=https-3A__urldefense.proofpoint&d=DwIFAg&c=S1d2Gs1Y1NQV8Lx35_
> Qi5FnTH2uYWyh_OhOS94IqYCo&r=XWj_eUO_bQUCPHe-lMHZ-m_Bw3WZ5F5rv-z8jW_oNrE&m=
> oLa7tK2PSoGRw4-fpLNj9OYmfkzvsBVF-vaY_6l0LPI&s=Mw9vBG933UYVCehA7_
> JK9lKHDCW16cmroiSBblA0NN0&e= .
> >>> com/v2/url?u=https-3A__repository.library.fresnostate.edu_&d=DwIBaQ&
> >>> c=
> >>> S1d2Gs1Y1NQV8Lx35_Qi5FnTH2uYWyh_OhOS94IqYCo&r=XWj_eUO_bQUCPHe-lMHZ-m
> >>> _
> >>> Bw3WZ5F5rv-z8jW_oNrE&m=BmrjXV97f-DqUJIy1D2dKfawe5wjM5oxwkeHg6LgqAg&s
> >>> = s99hHoVyeRlLYKnK9ILViyiAY2dIEFMaWtK7yvH6Vqc&e=
> >>> A pre-print is the original version of the manuscript as it is
> >>> submitted to a journal. The pre-print has not been through a process
> >>> of peer
> >> review.
> >>> A post-print is a document that has been through the peer review
> >>> process and incorporated reviewers comments. It is the final version
> >>> of the paper before it is sent off to the journal for publication.
> >>> It can't be
> >> formatted
> >>> to look like the journal.
> >>>
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