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At 02:39 PM 12/10/2003 -0600, you wrote: >Let me turn this question on its head a moment. Why aren't more more computer >programmers aware of the ideas and practices that allow the modern library >to function (cataloging, reference, circulation, facilities management)? Just >as librarians use Microsoft Word or manipulate their OPAC, programmers >probably have used a library in their college days, or visit their local >public library on ocassion. I agree. I've seen database schemas that were atrocious and thought "Why don't these database programmers learn something about how to organize knowledge from a librarian?". Isn't data mining analogous to using a ILS catalog? Could you imagine data mining for a marketing corporation and not know what the schema means or how to relate the tables? Rob Robert Fox Sr. Programmer/Analyst University Libraries of Notre Dame (574)631-3353 [log in to unmask]