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At 12:05 PM 12/10/2003 -0500, you wrote: >To what degree do y'all think computer programming should be skill aspects >of librarianship? It seems to depend. In the library where I work there is great resistance to learning about and using technology in house. Although we do have an ILS server all of our other database needs are hosted. Even our one server is handled by IT as far as backups, OS upgrades etc.. are concerned. There is a mantra around here that goes "we are not in the server business". Despite this we are currently adding an SFX server as a hosted solution. Our Online Services Librarian attends NISO meetings about OpenURL standards. Two of our most non-technical librarians are administrators of Digital Reference products. The skills of programming are necessary but are not available. In this way we continue to have relationships with predatory vendors who sell us broken products because we simply don't know any better way to do it. Obviously a huge culture change is necessary if librarians are going to become more computer literate let alone acquire skills in computer programming. The first step needs to be at the grad school level. When I went through the program if I wanted to learn programming it would have to be through computer science or the Business program. This was University of Texas in 2000. Many students wanted these skills but they were not available. E Edward Iglesias email: [log in to unmask] Technical Services Librarian/ILS Coordinator phone: 504.864.7838 J. Edgar and Louise S. Monroe Library Loyola University New Orleans