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Back in our NOTIS days, we had need of call number sorted output. NOTIS falling woefully short in that department, I came up with a call number normalizing routine. Feed in a call number, get an array of call number pieces in return. Push the results through the sort of your choice. This exists in Perl nowadays, and might make it to CPAN one of these days. There are other things, but they might be more application specific. Roy Zimmer----->OIT----->Library Stuff & Other things-----> Western Michigan University----->Kalamazoo, Michigan USA localsystem=P3 ICBM=(%Fatal:GPS error 51) RF=KB8UBA AF="Hey you!" QRM! [log in to unmask] you go, there you are!