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Jason wrote: > Now how many people still find coding exciting after doing it for a > living, or learn new languages just for the hell of it? :D > -- Jason I have to admit that I seldom find it boring. Depending on what it is that have to or want to do, I usually find enjoyment in it somewhere along the way, and a fulfilling sense of satisfaction when it's done. The satisfaction factor comes into play if it's something larger, non-trivial. I don't think that I've ever found coding exciting, except maybe for personal purposes. I've learned some languages post-college. Almost entirely, these have been completely self-taught. In one instance, I requested and received some training (not in these budget times!). One other time, a colleague held internal classes. I cut my teeth on COBOL, FORTRAN, Pascal, Simula, RPG, and flavors of assembly language. I loved the system call libraries available for the DEC implemented languages running under (Open/?)VMS. These days, I'm using a lot of Perl, SQL or PL/SQL (Oracle), regular SQL (MySQL and Postgres), some snippets of shell scripts, and some WinBatch on the Windows platform. I still fool around with Pascal sometimes. I've been through C in the past, have explored Java (don't like it because I hate the enforced capitalization conventions that lead to many mistakes). Oh yes, I use Javascript sometimes for the HTML for web apps, interspersed with the above. I guess that I do not learn languages for the hell of it, but if I think or know that I'll need it, I'll look into it. When I first started in this line of work (almost two decades ago), I did lots of programming at home, for the fun of it. Between life's changes and requirements, and how things have changed in the computing world, I seldom program outside of work these days. Roy Zimmer----->OIT----->Library Stuff & Other things-----> Western Michigan University----->Kalamazoo, Michigan USA localsystem=P3 ICBM=(%Fatal:GPS error 51) RF=KB8UBA AF="Hey you!" QRM! [log in to unmask] you go, there you are!