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Hi folks, I just started tinkering with Expect to talk to our OPAC, and I'm finding that when I look at the resulting log files I get a lot of garbage characters eg: [H[2J[1;11H*** INNOPAC (for more see log: http://www6.wittenberg.edu/lib/logfile.txt ) I see these characters in more, emacs, web browsers, etc. But curiously, I don't see them in "grep" results (although I do see them if I pipe grep results to a logfile of their own.) This makes me think that the computer knows they are funny characters in some way, which gives me some hope that they are filterable. Can anyone suggest a way to do this? I'm working on HP-UX (though soon it'll be Solaris. soon soon soon!) And if anyone already has experience using Expect to talk to their OPAC, especially Innopac, I'd love to hear about it. Looks like it could have some complexities, and I don't really want to reinvent the wheel if the wheel already exists. Thanks, Ken Ken Irwin [log in to unmask] Reference/Electronic Resources Librarian (937) 327-7594 Thomas Library, Wittenberg University