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There was some discussion of bambookit on one of the Mozilla lists and I think there may have been some question of how closely it followed XUL. I have never used it, and the applet building block might be problematic if you are aiming for a rich user interface that serves a wide audience. I don't know the other competitors for XForms-like environments right now either, but one thing cforms has going for it is the "continuation" support in Cocoon, it nicely gets around all sorts of state-handling issues you often run into with complex web applications. I have heard of one case where a web application tests for mozilla and uses stylesheets to produce XUL on the fly. If XAML, or whatever Microsoft's technology ends up being called, is somewhat close to XUL, server-side stylesheets might be one way to mediate a rich interface between browsers. art