Another nice perk to having stuff over on gmane is you can read the list in your RSS aggregator, or use code4lib via a blog like interface: http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.education.web4lib I guess I'm biased since I submitted code4lib to gman.org for addition :-) //Ed -- Ed Summers aim: inkdroid skype: inkdroid web: http://www.inkdroid.org Every moment is a little bit later. [Wilco]