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OK, folks, it's time for a comment from the peanut gallery. (Having had my 1st cuppa, I am brave.) Last night I pulled the first 3 issues of JOLA (yeah, I go back that far) from my shelf and took a look. Back in the late '60s, JOLA was reproducing images of Hollerith cards, tractor-feed print dumps, flowcharts, and formulae to illustrate some pretty detailed articles about really tech-y stuff pertaining to the mainframe environment in libraries. Compared to today's ITAL, the early JOLA was deeper into the guts of library code development. You are proposing to go back to that. I say, Yes! I like the idea of this being within the code4lib site, I like Art's idea re commenting, I like the idea of more formal sprinkled with shorter and faster. The topics are what you all have been cranking out anyway, but they will change as things move forward. Hey, you created a conference out of thin air; you can do this, and invent a new journal type in the process. (Don't forget the ISSN, please!) Although I may not know half the time what you're talking about, I scramble to keep up and enjoy every minute of it. I don't code, but perhaps I might speak for the lurking audience here that doesn't code. Incrementally, we learn every time one of you posts a new idea, or points in a different direction. We don't sit on and participate in the edge, where you are; but we are very close, and watch intently. And, we feed this stuff back into our own organizations to illuminate possibilities. Go for it! You have readership. Din. Donna Dinberg Systems Librarian/Analyst Reference and Genealogy Division Library and Archives Canada [log in to unmask] ** My own thoughts, of course, not those of my employer. **