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Ok, so this is a good example for where Iım failing to see the advantage to OpenID over the current local authentication provided by a university / library. Why would I need to use OpenID as opposed to my current account that my library provides me? As I understand the current OpenURL workflow, OpenURL doesnıt do anything with authentication / authorization that happens at the information source or at the institutionıs proxy server. Again, OpenID doesnıt say anything about trust; it only speaks to authenticating that I am the owner of my OpenID URI. Iım truly trying to play devilıs advocate here; I believe that OpenID is a step in the right direction, and we even have plans for adding OpenID support in LibraryFind. Iım really trying to tease out where the added-value is and how it might best link up to trust systems. All that being said, Iım still good for that beer, Nate. :-) -- jaf On 3/23/07 9:20 AM, "Nathan Vack" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > On Mar 22, 2007, at 10:51 PM, Jeremy Frumkin wrote: > >> > It isnıt clear to me that there is enough added value to libraries >> > at this point to adopt OpenID of course, Iıd be glad to buy >> > someone a beer if they provide a use case to convince me otherwise ;-) > > OK, I'll bite: > > * We build a registry mapping OpenID providers to OpenURL resolvers. > > * A user comes to our tool for finding licensed material (eg, a > LibraryFind implementation) > > * If (by IP, OCLC's link resolver) we know the OpenURL resolver, > rewrite URLs to point at that resolver. > > * Otherwise, we punt to an OpenID login form, and look them up in the > OpenID -> Resolver registry, and use that resolver when rewriting links. > > Now, anyone whose institution has both has an OpenURL resolver and > provides OpenIDs can use our tool, without making any interaction > with us. > > The really nice thing is that (at least for us) the OpenID resolver > handles trust issues, proxying requests if necessary. The resolver > doesn't need to be OpenID-aware -- though it would make for a nicer > experience. > > Cheers, > -Nate > =============================================== Jeremy Frumkin The Gray Chair for Innovative Library Services 121 The Valley Library, Oregon State University Corvallis OR 97331-4501 [log in to unmask] 541.737.9928 541.737.3453 (Fax) 541.230.4483 (Cell) =============================================== " Without ambition one starts nothing. Without work one finishes nothing. " - Emerson