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D Chudnov wrote: > 1) we could have found someplace > 2) this is a problem either way > 3) this is a problem either way > 4) a few days' downtime is one thing - a few weeks' is another. > > Yes, I believe everyone realizes this is a problem. That is why everyone has been talking about figuring out a solution. The OSU proposal was deemed the best available solution yesterday in a discussion, but that doesn't mean you can't propose other ones. If you think you need to convince everyone that the current situation is a problem, I think you are tilting at windmills. Everyone is convinced. Jonathan > >>> 2. Are there offsite backups of the www.code4lib.org site - its files >>> and database? >>> >>> >> Yes, and they live on my machine at work. >> > > Let's set up a second backup of your backup? I'll take a copy, and > add another to s3 for safer-keeping. > > > >>> 3. The discussion seemed to only involve one proposal. There wasn't >>> a call for any other proposals, and it wasn't clear to me that by >>> missing this meeting (i was at a gathering with several other people >>> with an interest in anvil and other things c4l) that I would miss out >>> on any opportunity to have input. I'd like to propose a different >>> hosting plan. Shouldn't there be a chance for more discussion here? >>> >> Who's stopping you? We announced a 'town hall meeting', nobody >> publicly dissented on the mailing list. We're 'discussing' now, >> you're complaining but not articulating an alternative. You mentioned >> ibiblio in channel, but until something tangible is offered, the >> Oregon State offer meets the 'one in hand is worth two in the bush' >> criteria. >> > > Nobody is stopping me. I was offline all weekend, and busy otherwise, > and it wasn't clear to me whether this was a done deal already. > > I'm not complaining, I'm just seeking clarification. In a > complainy-sounding way. > > > >>> I understand that some of these questions might seem to be coming a >>> bit late, and I'm sorry to be in a position where my jerkiness is all >>> the worse because of it. But I still think these are questions that >>> need answers. >>> >> I don't think anything has been 'decided'. We had a meeting, OSU >> stepped forward, nobody present objected. www.code4lib.org is still >> 'down'. >> > > I propose that we move hosting of www.code4lib.org to ibiblio if > they'll have us. They've been there for 15(+?) years, they are there > for exactly this purpose, and they're not for-profit. I've had good > luck hosting things there, and they're liberal about accounts, so long > as you don't prove to be an idiot. To support this I'd be happy to > sign up for support duties. > > Separately I can bring up an emergency/temporary backup of the > www.code4lib.org site if it is not otherwise possible before the end > of the week. I'm in transit all day tomorrow, but let me know by > first thing friday > > -Dan > > -- Jonathan Rochkind Digital Services Software Engineer The Sheridan Libraries Johns Hopkins University 410.516.8886 rochkind (at) jhu.edu