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Of course! "Notify me when the schedule changes." That's a must-have. Publishing to a public website is a little problematic. Some of my co-workers are a little squeamish about patrons having their full names. The reasons are lost in the mists of time. If and when we have a staff intranet, that would definitely be the place for the scheduler. On 9/5/07, Joe Atzberger <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > You might consider RSS syndication as a third possible means of publishing a > schedule, or rather, as an alternative to directly dumping HTML. Clearly it > would take more work than just generating a printout, but the > interoperability is sweet. > --Joe > > On 9/5/07, Helen Chu <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > By "publish" I would like to be able to do one or more of the following: > > > > 1. publish a public version to a public web site so we can see who (which > > person with which specific skills) will staff the desk > > > > 2. print out on paper > > > > The shift swapping would be great so that our schedule coordinator doesn't > > have to spend his/her time juggling students' midterms schedules. We've got > > more complex work for our staff! > > > > Helen > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of > > Sharon Foster > > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 2:18 PM > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] [Web4lib] Library Staff Scheduler > > > > By "publish," do you mean print to hard-copy, or something more? > > > > A swap board is an excellent feature. It beats leaving a note on the staff > > bulletin board: "Can anyone swap with me for the week of November 7th?" > > > > > > On 9/5/07, Helen Chu <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > > > Been looking for a staff scheduling program too. I need additional > > functionality: > > > > > > - students should be able to trade shifts with each other > > > - we can easily publish the schedule of who's working > > > > > > Anyone had any success with this? > > > > > > BTW, Deb, do you know Barron Koralesky? Good friend of mine. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Helen > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > Helen Chu > > > Director, Library Information Technology California Polytechnic > > > University San Luis Obispo, CA 93401 [log in to unmask] > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf > > > Of Deb Bergeron > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 9:19 AM > > > To: [log in to unmask] > > > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] [Web4lib] Library Staff Scheduler > > > > > > Sharon, > > > > > > Thank you. While our application may be different, I am interested in > > what you develop. Are looking at starting development immediately? > > > > > > Please let me know your progress or if I can help in any way. > > > > > > Deb > > > > > > Sharon Foster wrote: > > > > Gotcha! My library is in a consortium as well, and there is a > > > > courier service, although since we are such a small state, it is > > > > actually a state-wide service, not just for our consortium. > > > > > > > > My initial reaction is that the application I have in mind *could* > > > > be used to set up a courier schedule, but instead of one desk and > > > > several people staffing it over the course of a day, you have one > > > > person moving to different "desks" (libraries) over the course of a > > > > day. I think that's a different enough pattern, along with the "is > > > > it on time?" requirement, to warrant its own application. > > > > > > > > The question I was asking was directed to public and academic > > > > library systems with more than one location or branch. Do you ever > > > > move people around among the branches? If so, then I want the > > > > scheduler to incorporate that. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/5/07, Deb Bergeron <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > > > > >> Sharon, > > > >> > > > >> I think I need to clarify. We are an academic consortium of 14 > > > >> completely different libraries who share a common ILS, consequently > > > >> we have no 'branches;' each library is independent. Some of the > > > >> libraries have their own branches or locations, however, and could > > > >> use your scheduler application in their own library. So your > > > >> question about staff being assigned to another branch does not > > > >> apply in our case. What does apply is knowing the library hours and > > academic calendar. > > > >> > > > >> Our office manages the ILS and all of its components. One of > > > >> those components is the courier. The courier picks up and delivers > > > >> items to all of the consortial libraries as well as our state-wide > > ILL system (MINITEX). > > > >> The courier schedule changes throughout the year and sometimes daily > > (i.e. > > > >> storm, accident, traffic, etc.). It would be great to have an > > > >> online application indicating: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Courier's schedule > > > >> Is he on time? > > > >> Issues > > > >> If a library requests an additional pick-up Our goal is 24 hour > > > >> turn-around and often-times it's less than that. > > > >> > > > >> For both applications, it would be fabulous to have an online tool > > > >> that provides all the information I've described. > > > >> > > > >> I hope this clarifies the lay of our land for you. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Thanks, > > > >> > > > >> Deb > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Sharon Foster wrote: > > > >> Indeed! I hadn't even thought of multiple libraries in a system, > > > >> since I haven't yet worked in a system with branch libraries. > > > >> > > > >> Is it ever the case that staff may be temporarily assigned to > > > >> another branch, not their "home" branch? > > > >> > > > >> Are couriers thought of as assigned to a particular library, or are > > > >> they part of the larger system? > > > >> > > > >> Thanks for your input! > > > >> > > > >> On 9/5/07, Deb Bergeron <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Sharon, > > > >> > > > >> Kudos to you for taking this on! > > > >> > > > >> In looking at your wiki and your requirements list, we could use > > > >> this in a completely different way. We're an academic consortium with > > 14 libraries. > > > >> I can see this type of application working for us in two ways: > > > >> > > > >> 1. Manage our courier schedule. > > > >> 2. Manage library hours. With so many libraries, hours vary greatly. > > > >> > > > >> Is this the type of 'unique requirements' you're looking for from > > > >> other libraries? > > > >> > > > >> Thanks, > > > >> > > > >> Deb > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Sharon Foster wrote: > > > >> I've set up a wiki to collect software requirements for a Library > > > >> Staff Scheduler. Initially it's intended for use by public > > > >> libraries, because that's what I'm most familiar with, but I'd also > > > >> like to incorporate any unique requirements from other kinds of > > libraries. > > > >> > > > >> I know there is at least one implementation of this type of > > > >> application at http://sourceforge.net/projects/empscheduler/, and I > > > >> fully expect to use that project as the starting point for the > > > >> implementation of this one, but the demo page is missing or broken, > > > >> the project itself hasn't been updated since 12/2004, and it > > > >> doesn't particularly address the special requirements of library > > staffing. > > > >> > > > >> The wiki is at http://libstaff.pbwiki.com/ and the password is > > librarygeek. > > > >> > > > >> (aside: I started it with WetPaint, but there are so many ads on > > > >> each page that I thought it was too distracting. Free PBWiki may > > > >> not have the variety of themes that WetPaint has, but it also > > > >> doesn't have all those annoying ads.) > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> -- > > > >> --------- > > > >> Remember: Choose nutritious edible weeds for snacks! > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> -- > > > >> --------- > > > >> Deb Bergeron > > > >> System Administrator User Support > > > >> CLIC > > > >> 1619 Dayton Ave. Suite 204A > > > >> Saint Paul, MN 55104 > > > >> > > > >> T: 651.644.3878 > > > >> C:651-487-7609 > > > >> F:651.644.6258 > > > >> [log in to unmask] > > > >> www.clic.edu > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> -- > > > >> --------- > > > >> Remember: Choose nutritious edible weeds for snacks! > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> -- > > > >> --------- > > > >> Deb Bergeron > > > >> System Administrator User Support > > > >> CLIC > > > >> 1619 Dayton Ave. Suite 204A > > > >> Saint Paul, MN 55104 > > > >> > > > >> T: 651.644.3878 > > > >> C:651-487-7609 > > > >> F:651.644.6258 > > > >> [log in to unmask] > > > >> www.clic.edu > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -------- > > > Remember: Choose nutritious edible weeds for snacks! > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -------- > > > Deb Bergeron > > > System Administrator User Support > > > CLIC > > > 1619 Dayton Ave. Suite 204A > > > Saint Paul, MN 55104 > > > > > > T: 651.644.3878 > > > C:651-487-7609 > > > F:651.644.6258 > > > [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> www.clic.edu > > > <http://www.clic.edu> > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sharon M. Foster, B.S., J.D., 0.58 * (MLS) F/OSS Evangelist Cheshire > > Public Library > > 104 Main Street > > Cheshire, CT 06410 > > http://www.cheshirelibrary.org > > My library school portfolio: http://home.southernct.edu/~fosters4/ > > My final project for ILS655, Digital Libraries: > > http://www.vsa-software.com/ils655 > > > > Any opinions expressed here are entirely my own. > > > -- Sharon M. Foster, B.S., J.D., 0.58 * (MLS) F/OSS Evangelist Cheshire Public Library 104 Main Street Cheshire, CT 06410 http://www.cheshirelibrary.org My library school portfolio: http://home.southernct.edu/~fosters4/ My final project for ILS655, Digital Libraries: http://www.vsa-software.com/ils655 Any opinions expressed here are entirely my own.