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Grad student? Seems pretty low level to me. -Ross. On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Chick Markley <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Years ago I was in a discussion with a physics professor about aspects > of some new programming language, he then said to me, "I use a high > level language", naturally I tried to guess what it was, I went > through a pretty extensive list, increasingly esoteric. "No, no," he > said at last, "it's none of those, it's called 'graduate student'". I > imagine he used a text editor called 'secretary'. > -chick > > > > > A true hacker has no need for these crude tools. He waits for cosmic > > radiation to pummel the magnetic patterns on his drive into a pleasing > > and functional sequence of bits. > > > > --Sebastian > > > > Ross Singer wrote: > > > > > All I use is a pen and legal size paper. Longhand is the real > > > hacker's IDE. > > > > > > Then I feed my code in via a scanner and OCR. > > > > > > Python's a little tricker: needs a ruler or graph paper at the very > > > least. > > > > > > All my work is open source, give me a call and I'll read it to you. > > > Sorry, the fax machine isn't working right. > > > > > > -Ross. > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Ryan Ordway <[log in to unmask]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I prefer to edit the filesystem directly with a hex editor. No > > > > mounting required! I've given up on using magents directly on the > hard > > > > drive, I tend to do more damage that way... > > > > > > > > On Mar 31, 2008, at 10:54 AM, David Fiander wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vi is just as programmable as emacs. It's possible to write a vi > macro > > > > > that runs a turing machine. > > > > > > > > > > - David > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Cloutman, David > > > > > <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I use nano, which is the same thing as pico, more or less. I wrote > my > > > > > > first web pages using pico in a unix shell. I always thought it > was a > > > > > > great editor. I use nano almost daily, even on my Windows > machines. > > > > > > > > > > > > I just don't see the attaction to vi. I understand the need to > know > > > > > > it, > > > > > > but the fundamentalist furvor that some people have for the > program > > > > > > baffles me. > > > > > > > > > > > > - David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > David Cloutman <[log in to unmask]> > > > > > > Electronic Services Librarian > > > > > > Marin County Free Library > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On > > > > > > Behalf Of > > > > > > K.G. Schneider > > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:09 AM > > > > > > To: [log in to unmask] > > > > > > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] K&R (was: Gartner on OSS) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I now open up the vi vs. emacs discussion: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://xkcd.com/378/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (personally, I'm a BBEdit user, but fall back to vi as needed > ... > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for those rare times when you have to tip into a Solaris box to > fix > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vfstab and your TERM is completely hosed) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Joe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back when that was my choice, I used emacs exactly once, during > > > > > > which I > > > > > > removed every instance of the letter "m" from a lengthy document. > > > > > > (When > > > > > > I have to edit a file in my shell account, which is rare, I use > > > > > > pico... > > > > > > yes, I know that makes me a sissy *and I don't care.*) > > > > > > > > > > > > K.G. Schneider > > > > > > > > > > > > Email Disclaimer: > > > > > > http://www.co.marin.ca.us/nav/misc/EmailDisclaimer.cfm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Ryan Ordway E-mail: [log in to unmask] > > > > Unix Systems Administrator > > > > [log in to unmask] > > > > OSU Libraries, Corvallis, OR 97331 Office: Valley Library #4657 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sebastian Hammer, Index Data > > [log in to unmask] www.indexdata.com > > Ph: (603) 209-6853 Fax: (866) 383-4485 > > > > > > > > >