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Hmm so there's no implementation of COinS that doesn't interfere with screen readers that have "read title tag" turned on? It sounds like that isn't the default setting in JAWS but some people do turn it on: http://www.standards-schmandards.com/2005/browsing-habits/ Are there automated (e.g. NOT a browser plugin) uses of COinS? I'm not talking theoretical use but actual bots/spiders/import scripts. One way we could support COinS on OL would be for COinS users to explicitly turn it on. Or possibly it could be automatic if we detect COinS support (maybe it's passed in the browser agent?) - mang > Not that I know of. > > You can say display:none, but that'll probably hide it from LibX etc too. > > What is needed is a CSS @media for screen readers, like one exists for > 'print'. So you could have a seperate stylesheet for screenreaders, like > you can have a seperate stylesheet for print. That would be the right > way to do it. > > But doesn't exist. > > Jonathan > > Thomas Dowling wrote: >> On 12/04/2008 02:02 PM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: >> >>> Yeah, I had recently noticed indepedently, been unhappy with the way a >>> COinS "title" shows up in mouse-overs, and is reccommended to be used >>> by >>> screen readers. Oops. >>> >>> >> >> By any chance, do current screen readers honor something like '<span >> class="Z3988" style="speak:none" title=...>'? >> >> > > -- > Jonathan Rochkind > Digital Services Software Engineer > The Sheridan Libraries > Johns Hopkins University > 410.516.8886 > rochkind (at) jhu.edu >