Hi code4lib, Those of you who work in the areas of digital preservation, digital curation, digital libraries, and digital repositories* might be interested in joining the digital-curation Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/digital-curation The group has thus far been fairly low-volume with a high signal-to-noise ratio. Just to give you a taste of the sorts of things discussed there, recent conversations have been around the BagIt packaging standard, Amazon S3 and file integrity, and CDL's curation micro-services. Why not just use code4lib? It's not just about code and it's much broader than lib. (And we prefer the number 5 over 4.) -Mike * We do love the 'd' word, don't we?