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I hate to muddy the waters, but I can't resist here. Research also exposes a copy of the LC NAF at http://alcme.oclc.org/srw/search/lcnaf It gets updated every Tuesday night. This is something I've been maintaining for years and is what Identities points at when you ask to see the NAF record associated with an Identities record. This particular service has none of the linked-data-type bells and whistles I'm putting into VIAF and Identities, but easily could, if there was interest. I believe I've made the indexing on it consistent with what I do in Identities. Looking at the configuration file for the load of this database, I am omitting records with 100$k, 100$t, 100$v, 100$x or any 130 fields. I'm sure Ya'aqov (or other similarly expert Authority Librarian) could tell you why I am omitting them, because I can't off the top of my head. This service is actually running as a long established model of how similar services should run in Research. While it is not running on a machine operated by our production staff, it is automatically monitored by them, they have restart procedures in places when the service becomes unresponsive and problems are escalated by email when the restart fails to fix the problem. (Those emails come to me and where they get treated appropriately.) Let me know if there are questions about any of this. Ralph > -----Original Message----- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of > Ya'aqov Ziso > Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 3:29 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] WorldCat Terminologies > > Jonathan, thank you, in full accord. Yes, the crux of the matter is Names > (NAF being the more expensive library subscription > and the one not available for free like http://id.loc.gov > > At http://orlabs.oclc.org/Identities/ I searched clapton, ericš and wonder: > > * are all WorldCat+NAF 49 retrieved headings there helpful? do we need in > the list clayton, cecileš (etc.) > * Names that havenšt made it into an authority record are definitely > helpful, but can we suggest a way to sort and rank them more usefully (for > the user) on the page? > > Your thoughts? > Yašaqov > > > > > > > On 3/19/10 2:35 PM, "Jonathan Rochkind" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > I don't think the inclusion of non-NAF headings in Identities is a flaw, it's > > a benefit to the purpose of Identities not to be held back by the somewhat > > glacial pace of change in NAF. But you're right, the right tool for the job, > > I don't know that any of the existing OCLC "free" (or included with other OCLC > > membership/services) services are the right tool to replace any existing > > purchased authorities tools or sources. It depends on what you're using them > > for, of course. I agree that the brochure statement was potentially > > misleading, but these (Identities, Terminologies, Research Terminologies) are > > still very interesting and useful services. > > ________________________________________ > > From: Code for Libraries [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of > Ya'aqov Ziso > > [[log in to unmask]] > > Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 2:14 PM > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] WorldCat Terminologies > > > > Karen, > > Seems like pulling-teeth was worth it. Thank you for these updates and for > > making them available for all interested. > > Essentially, given your 6 months latency compared to http://id.loc.gov) and > > the inclusion of NAF and non-NAF headings in Identities, > > both Terminologies and Identities are not yet at a level of databases that > > libraries can go for, forgoing what they currently need to buy, load, and > > maintain locally. > > Your withdrawal of the brochure statement is justified and apology accepted. > > Yašaqov > > > > > > > > > > On 3/19/10 1:35 PM, "Karen Coombs" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > >> > Yašaqov, > >> > > >> > Identities is not based on a name authority file it is based on name data > >> in > >> > WorldCat. These two are not the same thing. Names within Identities come > >> from > >> > several different fields within the WorldCat MARC records including 1xx, > >> 6xx, > >> > and 7xx fields. This is why Identities contains names which have not made > >> > their way into a name authority file > >> > (http://www.worldcat.org/identities/np-levan,%20ralph%20r). Also Identities > >> > doesnšt contain authority records, it contains Identity records. Identity > >> > records contain different information from Authority records. > >> > > >> > There are name authority projects going on within OCLC Research. The > most > >> > active is VIAF http://www.viaf.org/ . This service contains name authority > >> > information from several national libraries, not just Library of Congress > >> and > >> > right now not all of NACO has been loaded, only differentiate personal > >> names. > >> > More information on the VIAF project is available at > >> > http://www.oclc.org/research/activities/viaf/ > >> > > >> > Regarding up to dateness of Terminologies as I said in my previous > message > a > >> > schedule for updates was posted to the Developer Network listserv and the > >> > Developer Network wiki > >> > (http://worldcat.org/devnet/wiki/Terminologies_Updates). Andrew Houghton > >> > has > >> > also informed you that information about how recently a given terminology > >> is > >> > located on the Experimental Terminologies page ( > >> > http://tspilot.oclc.org/resources/index.html). > >> > > >> > Karen