Jonathan, thank you, in full accord. Yes, the crux of the matter is Names (NAF being the more expensive library subscription and the one not available for free like http://id.loc.gov At http://orlabs.oclc.org/Identities/ I searched clapton, ericš and wonder: * are all WorldCat+NAF 49 retrieved headings there helpful? do we need in the list clayton, cecileš (etc.) * Names that havenšt made it into an authority record are definitely helpful, but can we suggest a way to sort and rank them more usefully (for the user) on the page? Your thoughts? Yašaqov On 3/19/10 2:35 PM, "Jonathan Rochkind" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > I don't think the inclusion of non-NAF headings in Identities is a flaw, it's > a benefit to the purpose of Identities not to be held back by the somewhat > glacial pace of change in NAF. But you're right, the right tool for the job, > I don't know that any of the existing OCLC "free" (or included with other OCLC > membership/services) services are the right tool to replace any existing > purchased authorities tools or sources. It depends on what you're using them > for, of course. I agree that the brochure statement was potentially > misleading, but these (Identities, Terminologies, Research Terminologies) are > still very interesting and useful services. > ________________________________________ > From: Code for Libraries [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ya'aqov Ziso > [[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 2:14 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] WorldCat Terminologies > > Karen, > Seems like pulling-teeth was worth it. Thank you for these updates and for > making them available for all interested. > Essentially, given your 6 months latency compared to http://id.loc.gov) and > the inclusion of NAF and non-NAF headings in Identities, > both Terminologies and Identities are not yet at a level of databases that > libraries can go for, forgoing what they currently need to buy, load, and > maintain locally. > Your withdrawal of the brochure statement is justified and apology accepted. > Yašaqov > > > > > On 3/19/10 1:35 PM, "Karen Coombs" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> > Yašaqov, >> > >> > Identities is not based on a name authority file it is based on name data >> in >> > WorldCat. These two are not the same thing. Names within Identities come >> from >> > several different fields within the WorldCat MARC records including 1xx, >> 6xx, >> > and 7xx fields. This is why Identities contains names which have not made >> > their way into a name authority file >> > (http://www.worldcat.org/identities/np-levan,%20ralph%20r). Also Identities >> > doesnšt contain authority records, it contains Identity records. Identity >> > records contain different information from Authority records. >> > >> > There are name authority projects going on within OCLC Research. The most >> > active is VIAF http://www.viaf.org/ . This service contains name authority >> > information from several national libraries, not just Library of Congress >> and >> > right now not all of NACO has been loaded, only differentiate personal >> names. >> > More information on the VIAF project is available at >> > http://www.oclc.org/research/activities/viaf/ >> > >> > Regarding up to dateness of Terminologies as I said in my previous message a >> > schedule for updates was posted to the Developer Network listserv and the >> > Developer Network wiki >> > (http://worldcat.org/devnet/wiki/Terminologies_Updates). Andrew Houghton >> has >> > also informed you that information about how recently a given terminology >> is >> > located on the Experimental Terminologies page ( >> > http://tspilot.oclc.org/resources/index.html). >> > >> > Karen