Unfortunately RefWorks only imports DO - not exports! We now recommend using RefWorks XML when exporting (for our project) - which is fine, but not publicly documented as far as I know :( Zotero recommend using BibTex for importing from RefWorks I think Owen On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Walker, David <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > I was also just working on DOI with RIS. > > It looks like both Endnote and Refworks recognize 'DO' for DOIs. But > apparently Zotero does not. If Zotero supported it, I'd say we'd have a de > facto standard on our hands. > > In fact, I couldn't figure out how to pass a DOI to Zotero using RIS. Or, > at least, in my testing I never saw the DOI show-up in Zotero. I don't > really use Zotero, so I may have missed it. > > --Dave > > ================== > David Walker > Library Web Services Manager > California State University > http://xerxes.calstate.edu > ________________________________________ > From: Code for Libraries [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Owen > Stephens [[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 2:26 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Twitter annotations and library software > > We've had problems with RIS on a recent project. Although there is a > specification (http://www.refman.com/support/risformat_intro.asp), it is > (I > feel) lacking enough rigour to ever be implemented consistently. The most > common issue in the wild that I've seen is use of different tags for the > same information (which the specification does not nail down enough to know > when each should be used): > > Use of TI or T1 for primary title > Use of AU or A1 for primary author > Use of UR, L1 or L2 to link to 'full text' > > Perhaps more significantly the specification doesn't include any field > specifically for a DOI, but despite this EndNote (owned by ISI > ResearchSoft, > who are also responsible for the RIS format specification) includes the DOI > in a DO field in its RIS output - not to specification. > > Owen > > On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Jakob Voss <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > Hi > > > > it's funny how quickly you vote against BibTeX, but at least it is a > format > > that is frequently used in the wild to create citations. If you call > BibTeX > > undocumented and garbage then how do you call MARC which is far more > > difficult to make use of? > > > > My assumption was that there is a specific use case for bibliographic > data > > in twitter annotations: > > > > I. Identifiy publication => this can *only* be done seriously with > > identifiers like ISBN, DOI, OCLCNum, LCCN etc. > > > > II. Deliver a citation => use a citation-oriented format (BibTeX, CSL, > RIS) > > > > I was not voting explicitly for BibTeX but at least there is a large > > community that can make use of it. I strongly favour CSL ( > > http://citationstyles.org/) because: > > > > - there is a JavaScript CSL-Processor. JavaScript is kind of a punishment > > but it is the natural environment for the Web 2.0 Mashup crowd that is > going > > to implement applications that use Twitter annotations > > > > - there are dozens of CSL citation styles so you can display a citation > in > > any way you want > > > > As Ross pointed out RIS would be an option too, but I miss the easy open > > source tools that use RIS to create citations from RIS data. > > > > Any other relevant format that I know (Bibont, MODS, MARC etc.) does not > > aim at identification or citation at the first place but tries to model > the > > full variety of bibliographic metadata. If your use case is > > > > III. Provide semantic properties and connections of a publication > > > > Then you should look at the Bibliographic Ontology. But III does *not* > > "just subsume" usecase II. - it is a different story that is not beeing > told > > by normal people but only but metadata experts, semantic web gurus, > library > > system developers etc. (I would count me to this groups). If you want > such > > complex data then you should use other systems but Twitter for data > exchange > > anyway. > > > > A list of CSL metadata fields can be found at > > > > http://citationstyles.org/downloads/specification.html#appendices > > > > and the JavaScript-Processor (which is also used in Zotero) provides more > > information for developers: http://groups.google.com/group/citeproc-js > > > > Cheers > > Jakob > > > > P.S: An example of a CSL record from the JavaScript client: > > > > { > > "title": "True Crime Radio and Listener Disenchantment with Network > > Broadcasting, 1935-1946", > > "author": [ { > > "family": "Razlogova", > > "given": "Elena" > > } ], > > "container-title": "American Quarterly", > > "volume": "58", > > "page": "137-158", > > "issued": { "date-parts": [ [2006, 3] ] }, > > "type": "article-journal" > > > > } > > > > > > -- > > Jakob Voß <[log in to unmask]>, skype: nichtich > > Verbundzentrale des GBV (VZG) / Common Library Network > > Platz der Goettinger Sieben 1, 37073 Göttingen, Germany > > +49 (0)551 39-10242, http://www.gbv.de > > > > > > -- > Owen Stephens > Owen Stephens Consulting > Web: http://www.ostephens.com > Email: [log in to unmask] > -- Owen Stephens Owen Stephens Consulting Web: http://www.ostephens.com Email: [log in to unmask]