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You know, there are some of us who are milk intolerant on this mailing list. And emacs intolerant, too. (although, I did use 'ee' as my editor in elm, but elm took too long to support MIME, so I switched to pine, with their pico default editor, but I don't use any of those I mentioned for coding, even though I am in pico/pine right now, as I still haven't switched to alpine or mutt) -Joe