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I can't find anything on the wiki that says WHERE c4l2011 will be. (I thought IMU was a hint, but that comes out as "International Medical University" in Malaysia as the top link.) That would be useful information. Also, if registration opens at 9, what time zone is that? kc p.s. Just because I haven't been paying attention doesn't mean I don't CARE. -- Karen Coyle [log in to unmask] http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet