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Thanks, Ross.  So that's why they call it "nice"? As usual I have much to
learn.

Cindy Harper, Systems Librarian
Colgate University Libraries
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315-228-7363



On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Ross Singer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Cindy, sorry, I realize that was vague.  I have shell access on Site5,
> but since you're using shared resources, they monitor your CPU/memory
> usage.  During high volume on a particular server, they'll kill
> processes that are running to make sure they can meet demands.  This
> *could* happen when you're trying to compile something, which tends to
> be CPU-intensive, although it just depends.
>
> I've had their trigger kick in while trying to install ruby gems,
> although it's completely unpredictable (that is, based on all sorts of
> variables) - sometimes the gems install with no problem, other times
> they're killed.  Compiling yaz is probably less of an issue (the
> makefile calls lots of things that run intensely, but quickly) than
> the pecl install of php/yaz.
>
> Running things in nice (http://linux.die.net/man/2/nice) probably
> helps your chances, but YMMV.  I don't think this policy is exclusive
> to Site5, pretty much all of the major shared web hosting providers
> will have something similar in place, otherwise users could constantly
> have processes running in shells.
>
> Like I said, though, it shouldn't be a problem, it just might take a
> few tries (which will be less work, in the long run, then running your
> own VPS).
>
> -Ross.
>
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Cindy Harper <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Sorry - what do you mean by "triggers their usage monitor" - CPU usage
> above
> > a certain threshold? Or they don't allow compiles?  I spoke with
> Bluehost,
> > and they indicated that if I got SSH access, I could try to compile it
> > myself. I'll check to see if this is possible with Lunarpages, which we
> now
> > have accounts with.
> >
> > Cindy Harper, Systems Librarian
> > Colgate University Libraries
> > [log in to unmask]
> > 315-228-7363
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Ross Singer <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Cindy, I think this might be possible, depending on the provider.  I
> >> have a site on Site5 and this seems pretty doable (it looks like I
> >> might have even tried this at some point, since I seem to have a
> >> compiled version of yaz in my home directory).  It would probably take
> >> some rooting around in the forums to see how people successfully are
> >> installing PECL extensions and it might take a few tries to compile
> >> yaz successfully (since if it triggers their usage monitor, they'll
> >> kill the process), but I think it would be worth a shot.  I would
> >> definitely recommend this before jumping to a VPS (and let's be
> >> realistic, everybody, if you're being this blasee about running a VPS,
> >> you are either investing some time/expertise sys admining it or you
> >> have an insecure server waiting to be exploited).
> >>
> >> Good luck!
> >> -Ross.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Cindy Harper <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >> > I guess I was hoping to have service such as that provided by my
> current
> >> > hosting service, where security,etc., updates for L A M & P are all
> >> > taken
> >> > care of by the host. Any recommendations along those lines?  One that
> >> > provides that and still lets me install what I want? My service
> >> > suggested
> >> > that I go to a VPS account,where I'd have to do my own updates.
> >> >
> >> > Cindy Harper, Systems Librarian
> >> > Colgate University Libraries
> >> > [log in to unmask]
> >> > 315-228-7363
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Han, Yan
> >> > <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> You can just buy a node from a variety of cloud providers such as
> >> >> Amazon
> >> >> EC2, Linode etc. (It is very easy to build anything you want).
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Yan
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> Of
> >> >> Cindy Harper
> >> >> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 10:54 AM
> >> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> >> Subject: [CODE4LIB] LAMP Hosting service that supports php_yaz?
> >> >>
> >> >> At the risk of exhausting my quota of messages for the month - Our
> LAMP
> >> >> hosting service does not support PECL extension php_yaz. Does anyone
> >> >> know of
> >> >> a service that does?
> >> >>
> >> >> Cindy Harper, Systems Librarian
> >> >> Colgate University Libraries
> >> >> [log in to unmask]
> >> >> 315-228-7363
> >> >>
> >> >
> >
> >
>