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Aha, the plot thickens! This sounds very promising. I'll sound very keen when they email me back! Thanks so much Roy. -Rowan On 26 September 2011 08:24, Roy Tennant <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > From the person in a position to know: "We have not yet figured out > pricing. We are definitely considering the needs of the developing > nations but don't have answers yet. At this point we are most focused > on the feature set that can be activated with no human intervention. > Looking for the intersection of the basic need and most automatable > (that probably is not a word)." > Roy > > On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 3:14 PM, rowan eisner <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > Ok, I tried to sign up for WSSL and you have to be in US. Also, if it > will > > cost 'a cup of coffee a day' am I right that would be at least $700 a > year? > > That's our entire annual budget. So probably only for first world > countries > > anyway. And you're meant to have one or two full-time staff which we > don't > > have. Still, I'll email them and see what they say. There are probably > 1000s > > of 3rd world libraries doing everything manually still and if there are > > economies of scale we may be able to afford it. > > > > Cheers > > Rowan > > > > On 24 September 2011 17:10, David Mayo <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > >> It's so experimental, that it's having a Free *Trail*. > >> > >> That is a good suggestion, by the way - I'm just amused by the typo. It > >> appears twice on this page, once on the sign-up page, and perhaps > >> elsewhere. Also, "absolutely" is misspelled as "absolutley" on the > sign-up > >> page. > >> > >> - Dave Mayo > >> > >> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Roy Tennant <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > >> > >> > Actually, I have an even better option from OCLC: > >> > > >> > Web Site for Small Libraries (WSSL) > >> > http://experimental.worldcat.org/lib/ > >> > > >> > It is really aimed at very small libraries, so it is very easy to use > >> > but still has some basic circulation capabilities. It's in free trial > >> > mode now, so take a look and see if it does what you need. > >> > Roy Tennant > >> > OCLC Research > >> > > >> > On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 12:22 AM, JONATHAN LEBRETON < > [log in to unmask] > >> > > >> > wrote: > >> > > You may be able to do something with OCLCs so-called Web Management > >> > System whereby your OPAC (in the form of WorldCat local.) and circ > >> > functions are in the cloud.. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Jonathan LeBreton > >> > > Senior Associate University Librarian > >> > > Temple University Libraries > >> > > Philadelphia PA 19122 > >> > > Voice: 215-204-3184 > >> > > Fax: 215-204-5201 > >> > > Mobile: 215-284-5070 > >> > > [log in to unmask] > >> > > [log in to unmask] > >> > > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > From: rowan eisner [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > >> > > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 11:51 PM > >> > > To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> > >> > > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Can a library automate without a computer > yet? > >> > > > >> > > Hi Dave > >> > > > >> > > It's an honesty system, card based, the way most community libraries > >> used > >> > to > >> > > work before computers. Because it's unstaffed about 15% of books > aren't > >> > > returned but we get a similar amount of donations. So we have that > >> > constant > >> > > churn to take in and out of a card catalog manually. > >> > > > >> > > We need borrowers to be able to check out books. I was thinking > maybe > >> > with a > >> > > scanner attached to an iphone running an app. I didn't think > >> librarything > >> > > could do circulation. I thought it was just a catalog. > >> > > > >> > > What do you reckon? > >> > > > >> > > Cheers > >> > > Rowan > >> > > > >> > > On 23 September 2011 21:34, David Mayo <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> I think it's going to be difficult to find a solution that's > entirely > >> > cloud > >> > >> based. > >> > >> > >> > >> What functionality do you need? If you have a very limited subset > of > >> > >> ILS/OPAC functions in mind, theoretically a LibraryThing paid > account > >> or > >> > >> similar quasi-library service might suffice. > >> > >> > >> > >> I'm having trouble understanding how circulation works/is expected > to > >> > work > >> > >> when librarians aren't present. Is there a sign-out sheet? How do > >> you > >> > >> monitor for lossage? > >> > >> > >> > >> - Dave Mayo > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:42 PM, rowan eisner < > [log in to unmask] > >> > >> >wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > Thanks Esme > >> > >> > > >> > >> > No, the library is open all hours but volunteers just come in 2 > hrs > >> a > >> > >> week. > >> > >> > I'm not sure how it could work but if we leave anything plugged > in > >> it > >> > >> will > >> > >> > get stolen or struck by lightning. We're in cloud forest. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > With koha and open-ils do we have to run the software on a server > or > >> > do > >> > >> we > >> > >> > just get an account on an existing system? Running a system > >> ourselves > >> > >> might > >> > >> > take a lot for us to figure out. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Cheers > >> > >> > Rowan > >> > >> > > >> > >> > On 23 September 2011 16:38, Cowles, Esme <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > Rowan- > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > Having a hosted catalog and circ system seems very easy to do. > >> > There > >> > >> are > >> > >> > > several open source library systems such as Koha and Evergreen > >> that > >> > >> might > >> > >> > > suit your needs: > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > http://www.koha.org/ > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > http://open-ils.org/ > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > Are there volunteers present the entire time the library is > open > >> to > >> > >> > > borrowers? Or are you counting on borrowers having smartphones > to > >> > >> > complete > >> > >> > > self-checkout? > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > -Esme > >> > >> > > -- > >> > >> > > Esme Cowles <[log in to unmask]> > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > "I don't need to be forgiven." -- The Who, Baba O'Reilly > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > On Sep 23, 2011, at 3:27 PM, rowan eisner wrote: > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > Apologies if this is the wrong forum, but if anyone can point > me > >> > in > >> > >> the > >> > >> > > > right direction... > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > We have an unstaffed library and can't leave a computer in > it. > >> Is > >> > >> there > >> > >> > a > >> > >> > > > way to automate > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > 1) with no computer - do circulation and catalog in the > cloud. > >> > >> > Volunteers > >> > >> > > > bring in laptops to do circulation and clients access catalog > >> with > >> > >> > > iphones > >> > >> > > > 2) that doesn't cost a fortune > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > Thanks so much > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > Rowan > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >