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Mike Taylor <[log in to unmask]> > So your best bet may be to shrug and let them have the old name for > their proprietary fork. Just come up with a new name for the open > codebase, let the world know, and move on with doing more useful > things -- spending what money you have on coders and cataloguers > rather than lawyers. Two things which may not be widely known here: 1. HLT was the original commissioner and I believe they have been using Koha continuously in delivering their library service since then. If they of all people are not allowed to share control of the name, then basically no FOSS project name is safe for its users. Ever. 2. "Koha" means akin to gift. The irony of trying to trademark that word in particular is mindboggling and should shame PTFS in the eyes of everyone who likes sharing information - basically all of us who are involved with libraries at some level, isn't it? So, please give generously to HLT's ratbag-repelling fund. There are wider issues at stake for users and coders for libraries. Regards, -- MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op. http://koha-community.org supporter, web and LMS developer, statistician. In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html Available for hire for Koha work http://www.software.coop/products/koha