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I personally would like one of two things to happen: 1) as Dan suggested, have only people registered for the conference vote. or 2) have the voting completed before registration. The reason for #1 had been already outlined by Dan. The reason for #2 is that it is easier to ask for money from administrators to attend a conference if you can point to specific sessions that are relevant to you position. Edward -- Edward M. Corrado On Nov 30, 2011, at 8:25 PM, "Michael B. Klein" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > IIRC, we've gone around on this before. It's been argued (possibly by me, > but definitely by others) that those *not* attending the con have a stake > in the outcomes, too, what with the streaming and the archiving and whatnot. > > I agree that blatant electioneering is a problem -- every year, there are a > bunch of people who sign up for accounts just to vote for a particular > presentation. My hope has always been that since those people care enough > to go that far, they might take a minute to read through the rest of them > and realize that there might be more to this than just the proposal they > came to shill for. Some of them might stick around and/or get involved. > Maybe. > > In any case, I'm interested to see how effective this current "call for > support" is. > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Dan Scott <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Hey folks: >> >> I'm not going to be attending code4lib yet again in 2012 (alas), so treat >> this with a grain of salt, but I wanted to point out that at least one >> project is encouraging their community to sign up for code4lib accounts and >> vote for their project's proposals. >> >> This seems rather gauche to me, and if left unchecked in future >> conferences, likely to lead to election-style pandering & the likelihood >> that we'll miss out on higher-quality proposals that don't have an army of >> ballot stuffers to whip into a frenzy or who are too honourable to engage >> in such behaviour. That would be an unfortunate future for the conference, >> in my opinion. >> >> It's too late to do anything about it this year, but a thought for next >> year: maybe voting gets limited to those who register for the conference so >> that voters have some skin in the game (that is, their precious time and >> travel expenses). Proposals could be made before registration, but voting >> would occur after registration (with attendance slots held for speakers, >> naturally). >> >> Dan Scott >>