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If Apple is "evil", I'd look more towards hardware and its environmental manufacturing impact rather than software/OS/culture. Everyone puts up a good face: http://www.apple.com/environment/ http://www.lenovo.com/social_responsibility/us/en/index.html But recent news is a bit alarming... http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/oct/04/apple-chinese-pollution-concerns http://valuestream2009.wordpress.com/2011/09/02/chinese-ngo-claims-apples-supply-chain-sustainability-is-rotten-to-the-core-will-consumers-agree/ Apparently it is difficult to capture statistics on the full supply chain. However, if your interested you can pickup the first "Carbon Neutral Footprint" laptop from ASUS *http://tinyurl.com/d6lb76g* Mark On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Erik Hetzner <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > At Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:54:09 -0800, > Chris Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > > Thanks everyone for all the recommendations. I know this would be this > list to ask. > > > > Sounds like Ubuntu is the overwhelming favorite. In the past when > > I've used a linux in a non-server computer, there are always some > > annoying problems... things like the laptop not waking from sleep > > mode, power consumption problems, or the microphone not working. > > > > So, I wondering about specific laptop brands/models and linux > > distributions/versions that people have found to work really well. A > > Dell or ThinkPad with Ubuntu seems to be the popular choice? > > > > But, yeah, I know i started it, but I'm going to avoid going deeper > > into my opinions on Apple vs. Windows vs. Linux and the implications > > vis-à-vis productivity, copyright, social justice, and the plight of > > the polar bear. If only out of concern that introducing this > > discussion might cause the poor mail server at ND to meltdown….. > > For what its worth, I run Ubuntu happily on my old (2007) macbook. The > only real tricky part is the lack of 2 pointer buttons. So you don’t > need to get rid of the mac to switch off OS X. > > That said, I would not buy a mac again, if only because Apple has gone > into full-bore evil mode. > > Finally, in my biased experience, a system running Ubuntu is now more > usable than a system running OS X. This is my experience, and I am not > going to argue about it. :) I imagine it works even better if you buy > a system that is certified or pre-installed. And if you are interested > in a netbook, although Ubuntu has discontinued the Ubuntu Netbook > Edition, I think the Unity interface is pretty slick on a small > netbook screen. > > best, Erik > > Sent from my free software system <http://fsf.org/>. > > -- [image: @mire Inc.] *Mark Diggory* *2888 Loker Avenue East, Suite 305, Carlsbad, CA. 92010* *Esperantolaan 4, Heverlee 3001, Belgium* http://www.atmire.com