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Hi Mark,

Good point. I think I got confused about whether we were specifically trying to focus on open source solutions or not.

Andrea

 

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> Andrea,
> 
> The  "Buy" option suggest that its a decision to use commercial
> solution
> or services, which could be built off either open source, proprietary
> or
> hybrid components. The essence being that its not a decision to
> completely
> make use of open source technologies.
> 
> Therefore If we are including "Buy" then I  think the decision tree
> should
> not be limited to open source only.
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> M
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> Hi all,
> 
> Karen, Trevor and Jefferson - thanks for getting the project scope
> started. I looked at the scoping the project section and made a few
> purely
> syntactic edits. When I got to the third point I started to word-smith
> the
> description but then realized I was confused and left it half done. I
> wasn't sure what the decision support tool was going to cover. Is it
> the
> key decision points when deciding whether to build, buy or adopt open
> source solutions; or is it the key decision points when deciding
> whether
> to build, buy or adopt open source or non-open source solutions? In
> other
> words, is the decision whether to build, buy or adopt, and the decision
> that it be open-source is assumed?
> 
> Thanks,
> Andrea
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> > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 1:18 PM
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> > Subject: [NDSA-INFRASTRUCTURE] Notes from the 1/31 Working Group Call
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> > Hi all,
> >
> > We have posted draft notes from Tuesday's call on the wiki. There are
> > available at this link and are pasted full-text at the bottom of this
> > email:
> >
> >
> http://www.loc.gov/extranet/wiki/osi/ndiip/ndsa/index.php?title=Tuesday
> > ,_January_31,_2012
> >
> > Feel free to tweak or make edits to the notes on the wiki page.
> >
> > Also, we have posted a first-draft towards scoping out a baseline
> > description of our OSS project. Please take a look and edit or append
> > the wiki or discuss over the listserv. The current text can be found
> in
> > the "Scoping the Project" section on project wiki page:
> >
> >
> http://www.loc.gov/extranet/wiki/osi/ndiip/ndsa/index.php?title=Open_So
> > urce_Software
> >
> > Lastly, our next call will be Tuesday, February 28, 2012 at 2pm EST.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Karen, Trevor, & Jefferson
> > _____
> >
> > Infrastructure Working Group Call, January 31, 2012, 2pm-3pm
> >
> > ==Attending==
> >
> > *Trevor Owens, Library of Congress
> > *Karen Cariani, WGBH
> > *Dave MacCarn, WGBH
> > *Jefferson Bailey, Library of Congress
> > *Aaron Trehub, Auburn University
> > *Mitch Brodsky, NY Philharmonic
> > *John Spenser, BMS Chase
> > *Martin Jacobson, NARA
> > *Michael Sterling, Academy of Motion Pictures
> > *Corey Snavely, University of Michigan
> > *Micah Altman, Harvard University (soon to be MIT)
> > *Nicole Scalessa, Library Company of Philadelphia
> > *Dean Farrell, UNC
> > *Elizabeth Perkes, Utah State Archives
> > *Bob Downs, Columbia University
> > *Joe Pawletko, NYU
> > *Dan Dodge, Thompson Reuters
> > *Priscilla Caplan, FCLA
> > *Andrea Goethels, Harvard University
> > *Linda Tadic, Audiovisual Archive Network
> > *Shaun Nicholson, Michigan State
> > *Martin Halbert, UNT
> >
> > ==Agenda==
> > *Update on Storage Report activities
> > *Discussion of our OSS project
> > *Update on other NDSA WG activities
> >
> > ==Storage Report==
> > *Two posts have been published on the NDIIPP blog highlighting and
> > analyzing results from the NDSA storage survey.
> > *Access: http://blogs.loc.gov/digitalpreservation/2011/12/diversity-
> of-
> > access-to-digital-preservation-collections-first-results-from-the-
> ndsa-
> > storage-survey/
> > *Cloud: http://blogs.loc.gov/digitalpreservation/2012/01/partly-
> cloudy-
> > trends-in-distributed-and-remote-preservation-storage-more-results-
> > from-the-ndsa-storage-survey/
> > *Three more are planned: one (in draft form now) on fixity, one on
> > administrative/managerial complexities, and one summary post that
> will
> > also included any stats/results that didn't fall into the previous
> four
> > posts.
> > *We are still tossing around ideas for the form of a final product
> from
> > this project, so ping the list if you have ideas or would like to be
> > involved in that effort.
> >
> > ==OSS Project==
> > Discussion:
> > *We are continuing to brainstorm on potential questions and who
> exactly
> > to pose them to as far as decision-making around open-source software
> > use for digital preservation.
> > *There is still a lack of clarity on who we want to invite to comment
> > and how we proceed developing question.
> > *One idea is to develop questions for ourselves first (meaning the
> > working group), then refine the question, then post to the NDSA
> > membership (much like the storage survey).
> > *Would also be useful to talk to folks who are experts or have
> > experience in this area to tease out issues before writing questions.
> > *Are our questions around decision-making for using, or for
> > participating in and contributing to projects?
> > *One potential approach is to look at thinks like Lyasis' FLOSS
> project
> > and other the other resources on the wiki. Then we can comment on
> what
> > features or formats we like from those materials materials.
> > *We need to figure out the scope of the questions -- should we make
> > distinctions between types of software (there's a difference between
> > file-renaming software and a full repository) - what's our focus?
> > *One use-case: enterprise tools for long-term access/preservation.
> That
> > is a decision that involves a different time horizon (for long-term
> > preservation in memory institutions) than a commercial, enterprise-
> wide
> > solution.
> > *Also the case of OSS on top of commercial piece (combination of
> build,
> > buy, and adopt).
> > *Also the case of "commercial open source" which is increasingly
> > prevalent, underlying OSS but with pay-for features or support or
> > implementation on top of it.
> > *It would work best to hone the focus before we begin thinking of
> > questions and/or communities/institutions to query.
> >
> > ==Other NDSA news==
> >
> > ==Innovation news==
> > * Innovation members are planning on participating in the Google
> Summer
> > of Code project. If any Infrastructure members would like to take
> part
> > (which involves mentoring a student developer/programmer who will
> write
> > code for an open-source software project), contact Jefferson or
> Trevor
> > and we will provide more info on the project & requirements.
> > *Innovation Awards: the annual awards program will be announced soon
> > and more information will be disseminated NDSA-wide. Please submit,
> and
> > encourage others to submit, nominations for people, projects,
> > institutions, or students/educators demonstrating innovation in the
> > field of digital preservation and stewardship.
> >
> > ==Standards==
> > *There is a "wiki project" in development to document digital
> > preservation standards and guidelines on Wikipedia.
> > *Another project is to conduct a staffing survey to see how
> > institutions have staffed themselves for digital preservation:
> numbers
> > of employees, organizational structure, skills expected of
> > employees/job applications, their ideal staffing levels, their
> > projected staffing levels, etc. The survey will be of both the NDSA
> > community and external institutions.
> > *Another project is to conduct a survey of what standards are
> currently
> > in use around digital preservation tasks at NDSA institution and then
> > track this information over time to determine trends, etc.
> >
> > ==Outreach==
> > *Creating "digital preservation in a box," a collection of resources
> > for digital preservation.
> > *Storytellers series, which collects unique or evocative stories
> about
> > digital preservation.
> >
> > ==Content==
> > *Working with WordPress to develop an "opt-in" plug-in which blog
> > creators can activate to note their content is available/allowable
> for
> > harvesting.
> >
> > ==Action items==
> > *Trevor/Micah will write a short, one paragraph statement scoping out
> a
> > baseline description for considering OSS when building digital
> > preservation infrastructure for long-term access & preservation
> [done]
> >
> http://www.loc.gov/extranet/wiki/osi/ndiip/ndsa/index.php?title=Open_So
> > urce_Software
> > *The group will review text posted to the wiki and comment over the
> > listserv.
> > *The group will continue reviewing, commenting on, and adding to the
> > OSS resources currently posted to the wiki, especially anything that
> > provides a good example or model of what we hope to provide.
> > *Related: The Digital Dilemma 2 paper is now available for download
> > *Next call will be Tuesday, February 28, 2012 at 2pm EST
> >
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