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I was moving towards a similar conclusion myself, Trevor, as your suggestion of having bi-weekly discussion questions on the list. I could see using some of Andrea's proposed topics as an initial queue to discuss through. At the same time, it would likely be useful to be back-filling the discussion-topic queue with other relevant questions/areas on which list-members would like to get community feedback. When the two weeks are up for a discussion, we move to the next (while capturing salient points out to the wiki). Opinions? On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Owens, Trevor <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Thanks Andrea, looks like there is some interest here. To follow up on Andrew's question about modes of moving forward, it seems to me that the email list is our most useful asset for facilitating these kinds of discussions. In this respect, I could imagine some model where there is a bi-weekly discussion question that we put out to the list and let people dig into it to the extent that they are interested. > > I should also like to make explicit that there is a standing open invitation to anyone on the list who wants to comment on these kinds of issues to share those comments as a guest post to the LoC digital preservation blog. With this in mind, anyone who wants to publicly share some discussion piece, or commentary, we could post there and then keep discussion going over the list. The guest blog posts approach has the added benefit in that the ongoing discussion and commentary itself becomes an output from the group. > > Thrilled to see some back and forth on the list on this. > > Trevor > > -----Original Message----- > From: The NDSA infrastructure working group list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Minor, David > Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 6:35 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [NDSA-INFRASTRUCTURE] storage again? > > I'd like to participate in such a discussion. With the caveat that I can't attend the Tuesday calls, so would appreciate any other mechanisms. > > David. > > On Feb 9, 2012, at 2:54 PM, John Spencer wrote: > >> My part of the world (commercial) could also use resources of this type. Are there any plans for having a range of questions that would be applicable to this constituency? >> >> From reviewing the responses from the member institutions, there are some parallels but there are more differences (legacy systems, high dependence on data tape, etc.). >> >> John >> >> John Spencer >> [log in to unmask] >> www.bmschace.com >> office 615.385.1251/ fax 615.385.0153 >> mobile 615.714.1199 >> >> On Feb 9, 2012, at 3:27 PM, Shawn Rounds wrote: >> >>> I'm new to this group but I like this idea. Just the sort of >>> exchange of information that I can use. >>> >>> Shawn >>> >>> Shawn Rounds >>> State Archivist >>> Division of Library and Collections >>> Minnesota Historical Society >>> 345 Kellogg Boulevard West >>> Saint Paul, Minnesota 55102 >>> >>> [log in to unmask] >>> 651.259.3265 >>> www.mnhs.org >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Andrew Woods <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>>> It looks like a good idea to me, Andrea. >>>> What do you think would be a productive way for such "discussions" >>>> to play out? The choices occur to me as being: email thread, wiki, >>>> conference call, or likely some combination. Going ahead and >>>> collecting some points of discussion to post on the wiki seems like >>>> a reasonable start. You and Mark have already raised: >>>> h2. Preservation Policies >>>> # number of copies >>>> # bit integrity check frequency >>>> # storage hierarchy >>>> # ... >>>> h2. Emerging Storage Technology >>>> # data reduction/de-duplication >>>> # device encryption >>>> # cloud providers >>>> # WORM devices >>>> # federated clusters >>>> # ... >>>> h2. Decision Factors >>>> # collection size >>>> # budget >>>> # development resources >>>> # ... >>>> h2. ... >>>> >>>> Andrew >>>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Goethals, Andrea >>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>> Dear all, >>>>> >>>>> Apart from other projects we're working on, and as a follow-up to >>>>> our >>>> preservation storage survey, I was wondering if there was any >>>> interest in the group in having in-depth discussions about >>>> particular aspects of preservation storage. I'm interested in both >>>> the reasons behind our policies (number of copies to keep, how often >>>> to do integrity testing, requirements to include tape, etc.) and >>>> opinions/experience on some of the existing and up-and-coming >>>> features of modern storage systems (data reduction/de-duplication >>>> features, encryption, inclusion of cloud storage, WORM storage, >>>> federated clusters, etc.). I'll understand though if the group wants >>>> to take a break from storage because we have spent a lot of time on it. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Andrea >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Andrea Goethals >>>>> Digital Preservation and Repository Services Manager Harvard >>>>> Library Office for Information Systems [log in to unmask] >>>>> (617) 495-3724 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ############################ >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from the NDSA-INFRASTRUCTURE list: >>>>> write to: mailto: >>>> [log in to unmask] >>>>> or click the following link: >>>>> >>>> http://list.digitalpreservation.gov/SCRIPTS/WA-DIGITAL.EXE?SUBED1=ND >>>> SA-INFRASTRUCTURE&A=1 >>>> >>>> ############################ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from the NDSA-INFRASTRUCTURE list: >>>> write to: mailto: >>>> [log in to unmask] >>>> or click the following link: >>>> >>>> http://list.digitalpreservation.gov/SCRIPTS/WA-DIGITAL.EXE?SUBED1=ND >>>> SA-INFRASTRUCTURE&A=1 >>>> >>> >>> ############################ >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the NDSA-INFRASTRUCTURE list: >>> write to: >>> mailto:[log in to unmask] >>> OV >>> or click the following link: >>> http://list.digitalpreservation.gov/SCRIPTS/WA-DIGITAL.EXE?SUBED1=NDS >>> A-INFRASTRUCTURE&A=1 >> >> >> ############################ >> >> To unsubscribe from the NDSA-INFRASTRUCTURE list: >> write to: >> mailto:[log in to unmask] >> V >> or click the following link: >> http://list.digitalpreservation.gov/SCRIPTS/WA-DIGITAL.EXE?SUBED1=NDSA >> -INFRASTRUCTURE&A=1 > > ############################ > > To unsubscribe from the NDSA-INFRASTRUCTURE list: > write to: mailto:[log in to unmask] > or click the following link: > http://list.digitalpreservation.gov/SCRIPTS/WA-DIGITAL.EXE?SUBED1=NDSA-INFRASTRUCTURE&A=1 > > ############################ > > To unsubscribe from the NDSA-INFRASTRUCTURE list: > write to: mailto:[log in to unmask] > or click the following link: > http://list.digitalpreservation.gov/SCRIPTS/WA-DIGITAL.EXE?SUBED1=NDSA-INFRASTRUCTURE&A=1 ############################ To unsubscribe from the NDSA-INFRASTRUCTURE list: write to: mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the following link: http://list.digitalpreservation.gov/SCRIPTS/WA-DIGITAL.EXE?SUBED1=NDSA-INFRASTRUCTURE&A=1