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CIDOC-CRM may be the answer here. I will look over the documentation in greater detail tomorrow. Thanks, Ethan On Apr 8, 2012 7:56 PM, "Ethan Gruber" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > The data is modeled, but I want to use an ontology for geographic concepts > that already exists, if possible. If anything, my issue highlights the > point that linked data can be *too* flexible. > On Apr 8, 2012 3:54 PM, "Michael Hopwood" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> I think this highlights the point that, at some point, you have to model >> the data. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of >> Ethan Gruber >> Sent: 08 April 2012 15:44 >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Representing geographic hiearchy in linked data >> >> Hi, >> >> Thanks for the info, but it's not quite what I'm looking for. We've >> established authority control for ancient places, but I'm looking for an >> ontology I can use to describe the child:parent relationship between city >> and region or region and larger region (in any way that isn't >> dcterms:partOf). Geonames has defined their own vocabulary that can't >> really be reused in other geographic contexts, e.g. with gn:countryCode, >> gn:parentCountry. >> >> Thanks, >> Ethan >> >> On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Karen Coyle <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> > Also, there is Geonames (http://www.geonames.org), which is the >> > primary geographic data set on the Semantic Web. Here is the link to >> Athens: >> > >> > http://www.geonames.org/**search.html?q=athens&country=**GR<http://www >> > .geonames.org/search.html?q=athens&country=GR> >> > >> > kc >> > >> > >> > On 4/6/12 4:54 PM, Karen Miller wrote: >> > >> >> Ethan, have you considered Getty's Thesaurus of Geographic Names? It >> >> does provide a geographic hierarchy, although the data for Athens >> >> they provide isn't quite the one you've described: >> >> >> >> http://www.getty.edu/vow/**TGNHierarchy?find=athens&** >> >> place=&nation=&prev_page=1&**english=Y&subjectid=7001393<http://www.g >> >> etty.edu/vow/TGNHierarchy?find=athens&place=&nation=&prev_page=1&engl >> >> ish=Y&subjectid=7001393> >> >> >> >> This vocabulary is available in XML here: >> >> >> >> http://www.getty.edu/research/**tools/vocabularies/obtain/**index.htm >> >> l<http://www.getty.edu/research/tools/vocabularies/obtain/index.html> >> >> >> >> I have looked at it but not used it; it's a big tangled mess of XML. >> >> >> >> MODS mimics a hierarchy (the subject/hierarchicalGeographic element >> >> has these children: continent, country, province, region, state, >> >> territory, county, city, island, area, extraterrestrialArea, >> >> citySection). The VRA Core location element provides a similar mapping. >> >> >> >> I try to stay away from Dublin Core, but I did venture onto the DC >> >> Terms page just now and saw TGN listed in the vocabulary encoding >> >> schemes there, so probably someone has implemented it. >> >> >> >> Karen >> >> >> >> >> >> Karen D. Miller >> >> Monographic/Digital Projects Cataloger Bibliographic Services Dept. >> >> Northwestern University Library >> >> Evanston, IL >> >> [log in to unmask] >> >> 847-467-3462 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]**EDU< >> [log in to unmask]>] >> >> On Behalf Of Ethan Gruber >> >> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 12:49 PM >> >> To: [log in to unmask] >> >> Subject: [CODE4LIB] Representing geographic hiearchy in linked data >> >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> I have a dilemma that needs to be sorted out. I'm looking for an >> >> ontology that can describe geographic hierarchy, and hopefully someone >> on >> >> the list has experience with this. For example, if I have an RDF >> record >> >> that describes Athens, I want to point Athens to Attica, and Attica to >> >> Greece, and so on. The current proposal is to use dcterms:partOf, but >> the >> >> problem with this is that our records will also use dcterms:partOf to >> >> describe a completely different type of relational concept, and it >> will be >> >> almost impossible for scripts to recognize the difference between >> these two >> >> uses of the same DC term. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ethan >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > Karen Coyle >> > [log in to unmask] http://kcoyle.net >> > ph: 1-510-540-7596 >> > m: 1-510-435-8234 >> > skype: kcoylenet >> > >> >