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Joe: I found the same chart and made the path below. -- Paul On 6/5/12 12:40 PM, Joseph Montibello wrote: > ++ > > Mark N's comments made me wonder, "what kinds of things *don't* require > IRB approval?" Here's a link to a page with the US's HHS department, > Office for Human Research Protections. > > http://1.usa.gov/OHRPchart > > Nice little flowchart / decision tree. Looks like Paul's particular bit of > research wouldn't require IRB approval. (import > standardLegalDisclaimer.notALawyer) > > Joe Montibello, MLIS > Library Systems Manager > Dartmouth College Library > 603.646.9394 > [log in to unmask] > > > > > > > On 6/5/12 12:19 PM, "Notess, Mark H"<[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> They are public: https://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A1=ind1206&L=CODE4LIB >> >> Have at it. >> >> While I fully support ethical research and even IRBs, we do everyone a >> disservice by appealing to IRBs to approve things that don't require their >> approval, even if we're just doing so to be "careful." It reminds me of >> the disservice we libraries sometimes do by asking for permission to use >> things when we could instead make a fair use argument. >> >> Best, >> >> Mark >> >> On 6/5/12 11:31 AM, "Jonathan Rochkind"<[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>> I think our list archives ought to be public, and ought ideally to be >>> available to anyone without even having to make an out of band request >>> to ELM. Are they not, can't you just download them from the web without >>> even having to ask? Either way, yes, anyone should be able to get the >>> archives to use them for whatever research they want. >>> >>> On 6/4/2012 4:54 PM, Edward M. Corrado wrote: >>>> I personally don't have any objections to this, and in fact, would be >>>> interested to find out what you discover. Make sure you check with your >>>> IRB >>>> to see if they require anything (sometimes even an anonymous survey can >>>> require IRB approval) if you are considering publishing your results. >>>> >>>> Also, if you are concerned or interested about any potential ethical >>>> issues, you may want to check out the Assocation of Internet >>>> Researchers: >>>> http://aoir.org/ >>>> >>>> Edward >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Paul Orkiszewski >>>> <[log in to unmask]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I'm interested in analyzing the list archives with a goal of studying >>>>> how >>>>> concepts move through the list over time, the relationship (or >>>>> non-relationship) between discussions in the list and eventual >>>>> implementations and practices in the broader library community, the >>>>> zeitgeist over time of an active development community, etc. I'm not >>>>> sure >>>>> about the tools and products at the moment, but the outcomes would be >>>>> anonymous and there would be no e-mail harvest of any kind, especially >>>>> and >>>>> specifically any commercial harvesting. An initial idea as an example >>>>> of >>>>> what I'm thinking about is to generate word clouds that could give a >>>>> snapshot of what's going on over some defined period of time, or >>>>> concepts >>>>> most closely associated with a particular term, or an overlap analysis >>>>> against one of the library science databases. Stuff like that. >>>>> >>>>> Eric Lease Morgan, the list admin, can provide an archive of the list, >>>>> but >>>>> I wanted to check with all of you before I asked for it. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Paul >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >>>>> ------------ >>>>> *Paul Orkiszewski* >>>>> Coordinator of Library Technology Services / Associate Professor >>>>> University Library >>>>> Appalachian State University >>>>> 218 College Street >>>>> P.O. Box 32026 >>>>> Boone, NC 28608-2026 >>>>> >>>>> E-mail: [log in to unmask] >>>>> Phone: 828 262 6588 >>>>> Fax: 828 262 2797 >>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >>>>> ------------ >>>>> -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Paul Orkiszewski* Coordinator of Library Technology Services / Associate Professor University Library Appalachian State University 218 College Street P.O. Box 32026 Boone, NC 28608-2026 E-mail: [log in to unmask] Phone: 828 262 6588 Fax: 828 262 2797 ------------------------------------------------------------------------