+1 to this! -----Original Message----- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Cary Gordon Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 13:14 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis WYSIWYG editors are the bane of my existence. Cary On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Pottinger, Hardy J. <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > I'll just say my experience with the Confluence WYSIWYG editor hasn't > been great. Now, partly, that might have been the fact that the one > page I tried using it on had been migrated from another wiki, so, to > be fair, the WYSIWYG editor was being presented with a challenge. But, > from a user's POV, I have to say, editing with a WYSIWYG editor on a > wiki is like a prank waiting for a punch line, and you, the > well-meaning user, are the punch line. If you don't want to be > embarrassed, I highly recommend going "advanced mode". :-) > > That experience has lead me to approach most WYSIWYG editors with caution. > Don't trust 'em. > -- > HARDY POTTINGER <[log in to unmask]> University of Missouri > Library Systems http://lso.umsystem.edu/~pottingerhj/ > https://MOspace.umsystem.edu/ > "Time and accident are committing daily havoc on the originals of the > valuable historical and State papers deposited in our public offices. > The late war has done the work of centuries in this business. The last > cannot be recovered but let us save what remains not by vaults and > locks which fence them from the public eye and use in consigning them > beyond the reach of accident" --Thomas Jefferson > > > > > > On 7/25/12 8:32 AM, "Sean Hannan" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >>As an administrator of a Confluence installation, I have to say that I >>hate it. >> >>Confluence is fine if you are not going to be touching it or doing any >>kind of local customizations (hooking it into local auth, etc.). If >>that's the case, you should really be looking at the hosted version. >> >>I've found that Atlassian is frustrating to deal with for support. I >>ran into a bug in Confluence that has been an open ticket in their >>issue tracker for 6 years. Years. I've found upgrades to be a pain, >>generally, and sometimes Atlassian will be fast and furious with them >>and it's hard to keep up. And the longer you wait, the more painful >>the upgrades become. >> >>I don't deal with the money side of things, but I definitely think >>that we do not get what we pay for with Confluence. >> >>-Sean >> >>On 7/25/12 9:05 AM, "Nathan Tallman" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>> That's what I'm worried about with MediaWiki. The syntax used when >>>creating and editing pages isn't intuitive and I'm afraid people >>>won't want to use it. I was hoping someone would recommend a wiki >>>with more of a WYSIWYG type of editing interface. Was also hoping to >>>stick with FLOSS, but perhaps I should at least peak at Confluence. >>> >>> Thanks for the input, >>> Nathan >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Nate Vack <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>>> If you're expecting "everyone" to create and edit pages, it will be >>>> very hard to get widespread adoption with it. >>>> -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com