Right, thanks, but you're missing my point/question. A significant portion of all of our libraries use these days is by patrons that are off-campus and will not be IP-authenticated (Unless you have all patrons use a VPN or something before using library services?) Those off-campus patrons at Dartmouth, do they just always get the limited results available to non-auth end-users, or do you encourage them to login (and if so, any idea how many do?) On 10/24/2012 1:54 PM, Mark Mounts wrote: > We have Summon at Dartmouth College. Authentication is IP based so > with a Dartmouth IP address the user will see all our licensed > content. > > There is also the option to see all the content Summon has beyond > what we license by selecting the option "Add results beyond your > library's collection" > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- From: Code for Libraries > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jonathan Rochkind > Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 12:16 PM To: > [log in to unmask] Subject: [CODE4LIB] Q: "Discovery" products > and authentication (esp Summon) > > Looking at the major 'discovery' products, Summon, Primo, EDS.... > > ...all three will provide some results to un-authenticated users (the > general public), but have some portions of the corpus that are > restricted and won't show up in your results unless you have an > authenticated user affiliated with customer's organization. > > So when we look around on the web for Summon and Primo examples, we > can for instance do some sample searches there even without logging > in or being affiliated with the particular institution. > > But we are only seeing a subset of results there, not actually seeing > everything, since we didn't auth. > > But most of these examples I look at don't, in their UI, make this > particularly clear. > > This leads to me wonder if, in actual use, even for customers who > _could_ login to see complete results -- anyone ever does. > > So very curious to get an answer from any existing customers as to > this issue. Do the end-users realize they will get more complete > results if they log in? Do you have any numbers (or other info, > even if not cold stats) on how many end-users choose to log in to see > more complete results? > > If nobody ever authenticates to see more complete results.... then > the subset available to un-authenticated users essentially _is_ the > product, the extra stuff that nobody ever sees is kinda irrelevant, > no? > > Anyone who is a current customer of Summon/Primo/EDS want to say > anything on this topic? Would be helpful. > >