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There are other interesting things that could be done with a survey... one could ask Ross & Warren's questions in addition to the simpler "in community"/"not in community". Do women attend events and/or lurk on the list, but also not view themselves as a member of the community, more than men do? Deciding how to change the dynamics could be helped by answers to questions like this. On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Wilhelmina Randtke <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > Um, no. Anyone who takes the survey has to have gotten the incoming link > from somewhere. This listserv is the most likely source. So, by your > definition almost anyone with the URL for the survey is a community > member. > > Self-defining as part of the community is about how people see their role. > Otherwise the survey could just list all those things you said and ask if > the person did them. > > -Wilhelmina Randtke > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Ross Singer <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > > To second Rosy's point, if you are unsure if you are 'part of the > > community' and you can answer yes to any of the following questions, you > > absolutely can say 'yes' in the survey: > > > > You are on the CODE4LIB mailing list > > You have attended a Code4Lib conference > > You have submitted to a CfP to a Code4Lib conference > > You tried to attend a Code4Lib conference but didn't register in time > > You have a registered account on code4lib.org > > You have a registered account on wiki.code4lib.org > > You have submitted to or read the Code4lib journal > > You follow planet.code4lib.org > > You have been in the #code4lib IRC channel > > > > What I'm saying is that Code4Lib's "community" takes a lot of forms, > don't > > feel you need to be a regular in the IRC channel or something. > > > > -Ross. > > > > On Nov 27, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Rosalyn Metz <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > > To our dear dear lurking friends, > > > > > > We would also like you to take the survey. I put the "Do you consider > > > yourself a part of the Code4Lib community." question in the survey > > because > > > I wanted to make sure that people that were part of Code4Lib were > > > separated from the random people that might take the survey -- like oh > > say > > > my mom (I'm not kidding, she would take the survey if she saw it). > > > > > > But then I was reminded that I once thought I wasn't part of the > > community. > > > I read the listserv all the time and then I decided to start a blog. > And > > > then I went to a conference where I gave a lightning talk. And now > > Michael > > > Klein is yelling at me to come back to the conference and IRC chat > room. > > > > > > So now my hope for that question is that folks like you -- who think > they > > > are just a lurker -- will take the survey and respond no to the first > > > question. Then maybe we can figure out a way to turn some of those nos > > to > > > yeses. > > > > > > :) > > > A former lurker > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Rosalyn Metz <[log in to unmask]> > > wrote: > > > > > >> Ok Folks, > > >> > > >> I'm starting off small. Let's do a quick survey of the community and > > see > > >> what the gender breakdown is. > > >> > > >> Survey Link: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/68G5TBG > > >> > > >> It should take 1 minute to fill out. It closes at the end of the day > > >> Friday (midnight). I'll share the results here on Monday when we're > all > > >> back to work and can have a lively discussion about what they mean. > > Expect > > >> a chart (I like charts in addition to surveys). > > >> > > >> Rosalyn > > >> > > >> P.S. can someone share on the twitters? > > >> > > >