bess++ giarlo++ matienzo++ tennant++ all who have agreed to volunteer++ I think there are plenty of volunteers, so I'll gladly defer to others. (If you do need more, you know where to find me.) I trust you guys to make it sensible, not too formal, blah blah. As for signing personal names -- I hate that we have such a litigious society, but we do. I would certainly sign my support for a motion, but I would not want any of us to be individually responsible in a legal sense for some else's behavior. So please be careful! I'm pondering if a "code of conduct" (the positive things we want) would be a nice counterpart to explicitly stating what we don't condone ("anti-harrassment policy"). It should be low barrier and low risk for individuals to tell "us"/"someone" when they feel uncomfortable. Hopefully with enough detail to allow for remediation/change. Lastly, I'd like to hang on to the sense that an individual who has been called out in a transgression has an opportunity to make amends, to avoid future incidents and to remain in the community. I commit so many social blunders that it scares me to think I could be excluded from this great community from an unintentional consequence of a poorly filtered action. - Naomi who is understanding why legal code gets so frickin' complicated! On Nov 26, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Michael J. Giarlo wrote: > Hi Kyle, > > IMO, this is less an instrument to keep people playing nice and more an > instrument to point to in the event that we have to take action against an > offender. > > -Mike > > > > On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 7:42 PM, Kyle Banerjee <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Jon Stroop <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>> It's sad that we have to address this formally (as formal as c4l gets >>> anyway), but that's reality, so yes, bess++ indeed, and mjgiarlo++, >>> anarchivist++ for the quick assist. >>> >> >> This. >> >> >>> To that end, and as a show of (positive) force--not to mention how cool >>> our community is--I think it might be neat if we could find a way to make >>> whatever winds up being drafted something we can sign; i.e. attach our >>> personal names >>> >> >> Diversity and inclusiveness is a state of mind, and our individual and >> collective actions exert that force than any policy or pledge ever could. >> >> I'm hoping that things can be handled with the minimum formality necessary >> and that if something needs to be fixed, people can just talk about it so >> things can be made right. If we need a policy, I'm all for it. But it's >> truly a sad day if policy rather than just being motivated to do the right >> thing is what's keeping people playing nice. >> >> kyle >>