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bess++
giarlo++
matienzo++
tennant++
all who have agreed to volunteer++

I think there are plenty of volunteers, so I'll gladly defer to others.  (If you do need more, you know where to find me.)   I trust you guys to make it sensible, not too formal, blah blah.   As for signing personal names -- I hate that we have such a litigious society, but we do.  I would certainly sign my support for a motion, but I would not want any of us to be individually responsible in a legal sense for some else's behavior.   So please be careful!

I'm pondering if a "code of conduct" (the positive things we want) would be a nice counterpart to explicitly stating what we don't condone ("anti-harrassment policy").  

It should be low barrier and low risk for individuals to tell "us"/"someone" when they feel uncomfortable.   Hopefully with enough detail to allow for remediation/change.

Lastly, I'd like to hang on to the sense that an individual who has been called out in a transgression has an opportunity to make amends, to avoid future incidents and to remain in the community.  I commit so many social blunders that it scares me to think I could be excluded from this great community from an unintentional consequence of a poorly filtered action. 

- Naomi
who is understanding why legal code gets so frickin' complicated!

On Nov 26, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Michael J. Giarlo wrote:

> Hi Kyle,
> 
> IMO, this is less an instrument to keep people playing nice and more an
> instrument to point to in the event that we have to take action against an
> offender.
> 
> -Mike
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 7:42 PM, Kyle Banerjee <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Jon Stroop <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>>> It's sad that we have to address this formally (as formal as c4l gets
>>> anyway), but that's reality, so yes, bess++ indeed, and mjgiarlo++,
>>> anarchivist++ for the quick assist.
>>> 
>> 
>> This.
>> 
>> 
>>> To that end, and as a show of (positive) force--not to mention how cool
>>> our community is--I think it might be neat if we could find a way to make
>>> whatever winds up being drafted something we can sign; i.e. attach our
>>> personal names
>>> 
>> 
>> Diversity and inclusiveness is a state of mind, and our individual and
>> collective actions exert that force than any policy or pledge ever could.
>> 
>> I'm hoping that things can be handled with the minimum formality necessary
>> and that if something needs to be fixed, people can just talk about it so
>> things can be made right. If we need a policy, I'm all for it. But it's
>> truly a sad day if policy rather than just being motivated to do the right
>> thing is what's keeping people playing nice.
>> 
>> kyle
>>