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On Nov 7, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Kyle Banerjee <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > In all fairness, SRU also is something I'd hope would fade out as it is > based on an information retrieval model developed that saw its heydey > decades ago... Do you know of a better search/retrieve standard? -Ross. > > On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Karen Coyle <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Owen, >> >> I think we owe it to future generations to make sure that they don't have >> to know MARC. It's beginning to feel like one of those really bad horror >> films where the dead keep getting up and walking. I'm up for driving a >> stake through its still-beating heart. >> >> Imagine, just imagine, a world where you don't have to have memorized >> documents written 50 years before in order to process your data. (cue >> music, fade out) >> >> kc >> >> >> On 11/7/12 3:36 AM, Owen Stephens wrote: >> >>> Thanks Karen - probably should have known that! That's the nice thing >>> about MARC - always some new thing to cope with :) >>> >>> Owen >>> >>> Owen Stephens >>> Owen Stephens Consulting >>> Web: http://www.ostephens.com >>> Email: [log in to unmask] >>> Telephone: 0121 288 6936 >>> >>> On 6 Nov 2012, at 19:37, Karen Coyle <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>> The "9"s are available in all indicator positions for local use as >>>> defined in the MARC record (not MARC21) spec. [1] So what is in the MARC21 >>>> spec under a particular tag is the "non-local" values. I suspect that most >>>> systems just ignore any '9's they encounter unless those are defined as >>>> part of local system processing. >>>> >>>> kc >>>> [1] http://www.loc.gov/marc/**specifications/specrecstruc.**html<http://www.loc.gov/marc/specifications/specrecstruc.html> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11/6/12 10:20 AM, Owen Stephens wrote: >>>> >>>>> According to the MARC spec, 035 doesn't support '9' as a valid >>>>> indicator. My very uneducated guess would be the invalid indicator is >>>>> causing the underlying system not to index it? >>>>> >>>>> Owen Stephens >>>>> Owen Stephens Consulting >>>>> Web: http://www.ostephens.com >>>>> Email: [log in to unmask] >>>>> Telephone: 0121 288 6936 >>>>> >>>>> On 6 Nov 2012, at 17:43, Alevtina Verbovetskaya < >>>>> [log in to unmask]**CUNY.EDU<[log in to unmask]>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Let's say I've defined these indexes in pqf.properties on the SRU >>>>>> server: >>>>>> index.marc.020 = 1=7 # ISBN >>>>>> index.marc.035:1 = 1=1211 # OCLC/utility number where first indicator >>>>>> is non-blank >>>>>> index.marc.100:1 = 1=1 # author where first indicator is non-blank >>>>>> >>>>>> I can use the ISBN index to search for records, e.g.: >>>>>> http://apps.appl.cuny.edu:**5661/CENTRAL?version=1.1&** >>>>>> operation=searchRetrieve&**query=marc.020=<http://apps.appl.cuny.edu:5661/CENTRAL?version=1.1&operation=searchRetrieve&query=marc.020=> >>>>>> "9780801449437"**&startRecord=1&maximumRecords=**15 >>>>>> >>>>>> I can also use the author index to search for records, e.g.: >>>>>> http://apps.appl.cuny.edu:**5661/CENTRAL?version=1.1&** >>>>>> operation=searchRetrieve&**query=marc.100:1=<http://apps.appl.cuny.edu:5661/CENTRAL?version=1.1&operation=searchRetrieve&query=marc.100:1=> >>>>>> "Armenteros"&**startRecord=1&maximumRecords=**15 >>>>>> >>>>>> So why can't I search for records by utility number (035) with a >>>>>> non-blank first indicator? >>>>>> http://apps.appl.cuny.edu:**5661/CENTRAL?version=1.1&** >>>>>> operation=searchRetrieve&**query=marc.035:1=<http://apps.appl.cuny.edu:5661/CENTRAL?version=1.1&operation=searchRetrieve&query=marc.035:1=> >>>>>> "ebr10488669"**&startRecord=1&maximumRecords=**15 >>>>>> >>>>>> If you're playing along, you'll notice that these all point to the >>>>>> same record. However, when I try to search for it with >>>>>> &query=marc.035:1="<util_num>"**, I get no results. I thought maybe >>>>>> this was because there's already another 035 field (with blank indicators) >>>>>> that's an OCLC number so I temporarily removed it... but that didn't solve >>>>>> the issue. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyone have any experience with this? I need to be able to search by >>>>>> 0359# and I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. I would greatly >>>>>> appreciate some assistance! >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>> Allie >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Alevtina (Allie) Verbovetskaya >>>>>> Web and Mobile Systems Librarian (Substitute) >>>>>> Office of Library Services >>>>>> City University of New York >>>>>> 555 W 57th St, 13th fl. >>>>>> New York, NY 10019 >>>>>> T: 646-313-8158 >>>>>> F: 646-216-7064 >>>>>> [log in to unmask]**cuny.edu<[log in to unmask]> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> Karen Coyle >>>> [log in to unmask] http://kcoyle.net >>>> ph: 1-510-540-7596 >>>> m: 1-510-435-8234 >>>> skype: kcoylenet >>>> >>> >> -- >> Karen Coyle >> [log in to unmask] http://kcoyle.net >> ph: 1-510-540-7596 >> m: 1-510-435-8234 >> skype: kcoylenet >>