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Wilhelmina Randtke <[log in to unmask]> > MJ Ray, > > OK, ctrl+F did not work, because the email said "for just" but you said > "just for". Actually, no two words in your quote were in sequence in the > email you tried to quote. So much for ctrl+F. I don't much like this attempt to Fisk me over putting "a" inside the quote. It's also largely beside the point: that a "group for just women" would be discriminatory and should be Not In Our Name. ctrl+F is forward-character... not sure what you mean there. I misquoted "a group for just women" and quoted "gender-specific issues won't be addressed" which you can see at https://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind1212&L=CODE4LIB&F=&S=&P=172323 and the thread opener said "a small support and discussion group for just women" and "gender-specific issues won't be addressed" https://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind1212&L=CODE4LIB&F=&S=&P=166649 - most of the words in the quotes are in sequence, and the source text is readily available too. Those ideas should be rejected. > Casual discrimination against women and disabled doesn't mean you get a > pass to say none of this matters. Interacting specifically with other > people who have to live your issues and don't just look at them > intellectually (this interaction is what the women here are trying to do) > is not quite the same as denying that other people face issues (what both > of us have experienced at some point). I'm not denying there are issues. I'm saying code4libwomen would be another issue itself, rather than reducing them - it's a polluted snake oil cure, making the sickness worse. Personally, I also think that we shouldn't divide the equality campaigns up, as we've more similarity than difference, but that's a different point and it's not awful if we have to continue in silos. > If it helps, I use Webbie and Thunder to audio browse websites I work on, > because then I am more likely to notice glaringly obvious things like the > recaptcha. But, yeah, going into pretty much any subscription database > with only audio from a screen reader is a lost cause. Thanks for your consideration. I wish you could help open up wiki.code4lib.org - I can sign up for many things unaided, but maybe the Equality Act here means access is slightly better. Regards, -- MJ Ray Setchey, Norfolk, England