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I agree with removing the list of "sanctions." Cary On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Karen Coyle <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Peter, > > I removed the list of sanctions because it seemed unnecessarily ...punitive. > Sometimes, the whole "incident" may consist only of reminding someone that > their language has inadvertently offended. I wouldn't want it to sound like > someone would get kicked out of a c4l conference for an off-hand comment -- > that is, something that some of us would see as "non-PC" but still common in > our world. So if we add a few sanctions that we think would be necessary > only in cases of overt harassment, that's ok with me. But I see the best > role of the policy to allow a certain amount of "education" to take place, > and that "punishment" would only be used in extreme cases. We all make > mistakes -- and I wouldn't want to create an atmosphere where people are > afraid to speak up. Appropriately to this community, it's like coding: you > get a compiler error, and you learn. You only get kicked off the system if > you do real damage. > > kc > > > On 12/3/12 10:46 AM, Peter Murray wrote: >> >> I may have inadvertently logged a pull request when I made some minor >> edits to you changes: >> >> https://github.com/code4lib/antiharassment-policy/pull/20 >> >> First off, kcoyle++. I like the rethinking of the focus of the document. >> I added a missing work and tweaked a few other words. The pull request has >> some other discussion about removing the list of potential sanctions; I >> don't know if that was intentional or not, but I think putting the list of >> sanctions at the end would be helpful. >> >> >> Peter >> >> On Dec 2, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Karen Coyle <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>> I did a somewhat radical edit of the policy. To me it sounded >>> heavy-handed, and I didn't think that we needed such in our community. I >>> also want to distinguish between "bloopers" that need correction and >>> active harassment. A lot of discriminatory language is unconscious but >>> still should be gently corrected. [1] >>> >>> I also don't think that these are "rules" -- a policy is a policy, and I >>> think rules is too strong a term. >>> >>> Because of the amount that I changed (and because I really wasn't sure >>> what would happen when I hit "save") these changes are still in my >>> "fork": >>> >>> https://github.com/kcoyle/antiharassment-policy >>> >>> Let me know if I should commit it (and I'm assuming that's just a matter >>> of hitting the "commit" button). >>> >>> kc >>> >>> [1] It's from the 90's, but http://kcoyle.net/howhard.html has many >>> examples >> >> >> > > -- > Karen Coyle > [log in to unmask] http://kcoyle.net > ph: 1-510-540-7596 > m: 1-510-435-8234 > skype: kcoylenet -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com