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Wilhelmina Randtke <[log in to unmask]> > I think maybe in librarianship in general, there is some trying to turn > this around and use the same sexist advertising, but marginalize men > instead. I think this is a problem in society in general, not just librarianship or technologists: aiming for some improbable perfect balance of discrimination in all directions and misunderstanding that as equality. Such false friends are often uncovered when they suggest that if anyone doesn't like their Gay/Black/whatever Scholarship or Mentorship or whatever restorative scheme, those people should start or make another scheme for Non-gays/Non-blacks/Non-whatevers. So I'm disappointed but unsurprised to hear of male strippers at events. Like Karen Coyle, I'd love to know if anyone objected and what happened next. > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 8:54 AM, James Stuart <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > > This list is imperfect (I know several public incidents that aren't on here > > (recent DEFCON years aren't listed, The Amazing Meeting/ElevatorGate and > > various other skeptic convention incidents aren't on (possibly by > > design))), but it's at least a start, and hopefully a picture that sexism > > is an endemic, systematic problem right now in the geek convention world. > > http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_incidents Quite right it's imperfect! It's correlated with time, money and maybe an increasing number of smaller conferences with new, inexperienced organisers... I don't think the number of incidents is particularly informative, either: we'd be unhappy with one, no? So it may help to pick a random sample of the incidents and consider whether the anti-harassment policy for code4lib would deal with it. Moreover, I reject that we should place too much weight on that "resource for and about women". It has some interesting links, but a site with a "Resources for men" ghetto is not promoting equality well. Regards, -- MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op. http://koha-community.org supporter, web and library systems developer. In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html Available for hire (including development) at http://www.software.coop/