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On 12/18/12 7:14 PM, "Jonathan Rochkind" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >Really? I haven't heard of them or seen >them. Am I just really unobservant? Or am I seeing things but not >realizing they are offensive? I can't speak for anyone else. I know that I've been in (non-code4lib) situations where I *was* that unobservant, that I missed what was going on in front of me because I was focused on something else. I've also experienced hearing things and, based on the reactions, believing that it was non-offensive, not even questioning whether it was offensive, only to find out later that several of the people present were very offended (for reasons that made sense to me when I gave it some thought). Also, many such incidents are by their nature not happening in large group situations, and not talked about openly by anyone involved. Not to knock the community, but I think that along with being very supportive and friendly, we are very analytical and detail-oriented. If an incident at code4lib had bothered me personally and I hadn't felt comfortable to make a public issue of it at the time, putting it on a wiki page and asking the community to analyze it probably wouldn't appeal to me. On the other hand, I don't want to squash the idea as a bad one. Making the uncomfortable event publicly known, even in an anonymous and no-consequences kind of way, might be empowering to some. YMMV. Joe Montibello, MLIS Library Systems Manager Dartmouth College Library 603.646.9394 [log in to unmask] >