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On 12/6/12 2:14 PM, Jessica Wood wrote: > > Side note (also selfish): I hope that at least parts of this idea will be > available to people not attending the conference. I'd love to go to a > future conference, but I'm not making it to this one. Jessica, I think that the term is "enlightened self interest" :-). One thing I'm interested in is "train the trainer" capabilities. I have a course that I give that I would like to make available as modules that anyone can use. Mine happens to be on linked data, but there are a number of (infinite number of?) other topics. I've been pressured to turn my course into an online class but I think there is great value in f2f teaching, as well as having learners work in groups rather than remotely/individually. It would be great to have a set of courses that any knowledgeable person could take up and teach to local folks, or as pre-conference tutorials. As soon as I have enough content about my course online, I'll be asking folks for comments, and see if we can set up a train-the-trainer session. It's probably too late for this upcoming c4l, but I will be looking for other opportunities. kc > > > On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Andromeda Yelton <[log in to unmask] >> wrote: >> In terms of structure, drupalladder.org and Dreamwidth ( >> http://wiki.dwscoalition.org/notes/Dev_Getting_Started ) are good models >> for how to scaffold the process for new developers, and to help new >> community members regardless of skill level find places they can contribute >> and understand the socially accepted workflow. --ay >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Rosalyn Metz <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hey Shaun, >>> >>> I was actually thinking about some of this this morning, so I'm happy to >>> see there is someone else out there thinking about the same things. >>> >>> I like the idea of some type of structure to a program, I wonder if maybe >>> we could combine Karen's idea of training with a mentorship program. >>> >>> I also like your idea of projects being a way to recruit future >> volunteers, >>> both because it helps us know where to go to find people, but also >> because >>> it would help newbies figure out what's out there in the Code4Lib world >> (it >>> took me forever to realize that the website was something i needed a >>> password to in order to vote). >>> >>> If you already started a wiki page point me to it, I'm happy to start >>> fleshing out ideas! >>> >>> Rosalyn >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Shaun Ellis <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >>>> Hi Rosalyn, >>>> I agree that we should encourage women to step up and mentor other >> women >>>> at Code4Lib. I also see the pairing of women mentors with women >> mentees >>> as >>>> fitting into an overall mentorship program, and I would be interested >> in >>>> collaborating with you and others to help frame it out. >>>> >>>> I don't think it needs to be very formal, but it would be important to >>>> give some structure to it so folks know what they are getting into, how >>> to >>>> make sure everyone meets their goals, and measure the effectiveness of >>> the >>>> program in terms of meeting code4lib goals (such as increasing >> diversity, >>>> getting more volunteer help, etc.). We can start a wikipage to start >> to >>>> flesh this out, unless folks would like to use a different forum. >>>> >>>> In addition to the RailsBridge workshop, I was thinking that Code4Lib >>>> community projects would be a great way to both learn and recruit >> future >>>> volunteers. I was also trying to find the list of maintenance projects >>>> wiki page that someone (Jonathan?) was referring to as being top >>> priorities >>>> for Code4Lib. Is this it? >>>> http://wiki.code4lib.org/**index.php/AdminToDo< >>> http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/AdminToDo> >>>> Thoughts? >>>> >>>> -Shaun >>>> >>>> On 12/5/12 3:57 PM, Rosalyn Metz wrote: >>>> >>>>> So rather than focusing on statistics and math, I'd like to steer the >>>>> conversation in a different direction. Let's say Ross is right and >> more >>>>> women chose to take the survey based on the topic -- maybe that's a >> way >>> to >>>>> get women involved in Code4Lib. >>>>> >>>>> Karen had the idea of creating a women Code4Lib IRC channel, maybe >> that >>>>> can >>>>> be a place to start. Or maybe we have a few women that are willing to >>>>> step >>>>> up and be a Code4Lib mentor to other women -- similar to what we do >> for >>>>> the >>>>> new member event at the conference. I'd even be willing to step up >> and >>>>> organize that if people like the idea. >>>>> >>>>> Thoughts? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:00 PM, stuart yeates < >> [log in to unmask] >>>> ** >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 06/12/12 09:05, Sara Amato wrote: >>>>>> I'd been staying out of this discussion, but the thought occurs to >> me >>>>>>> that someone with access to the list of subscribers might run that >>>>>>> against >>>>>>> a list of traditional boy/girl names, and be able to make some >>> guesses…. >>>>>>> >>>>>> That idea runs into problems both with non-western names (there is >> more >>>>>> than one kind of diversity) and those people whose experience of >> gender >>>>>> in >>>>>> the workplace have led them to use non-gender-specific identifiers. >>>>>> >>>>>> cheers >>>>>> stuart >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Stuart Yeates >>>>>> Library Technology Services http://www.victoria.ac.nz/****library/< >>> http://www.victoria.ac.nz/**library/> >>>>>> <http://www.victoria.**ac.nz/library/< >>> http://www.victoria.ac.nz/library/> >>>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Shaun D. Ellis >>>> Digital Library Interface Developer >>>> Firestone Library, Princeton University >>>> voice: 609.258.1698 | [log in to unmask] >>>> -- Karen Coyle [log in to unmask] http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet