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+1 Male, coded in prehistoric times, now do more research and administration. Want to learn Pyramid just well enough to make really terrible web front ends for my really terrible python ETL scripts. -----Original Message----- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joseph Montibello Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 6:55 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Mentorship Program Hi all, I wouldn't want to crowd out women who are looking for this sort of mentoring, but I (and other men) might be interested in being a mentee[1]. The flip side of MJ's logic (which I agree with) is that no men in the pool of mentees means fewer opportunities for women to be mentors. Just my two cents. Joe Montibello, MLIS Library Systems Manager Dartmouth College Library 603.646.9394 [log in to unmask] [1] dumb aside on the word mentee - from Wikipedia, "The person in receipt of mentorship may be referred to as a protégé (male), a protégée (female), an apprentice or, in recent years, a mentee." Protégé(é) appeals to me more than mentee, but maybe that's because my brain jumps from mentee to mentees to Mentos. I don't want to volunteer to be dropped into a bottle of soda! Also, I don't have enough linguistics/language history to know if protégée is a female derivative of the male form, which would probably be undesirable. On 12/7/12 8:52 AM, "MJ Ray" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >Shaun Ellis <[log in to unmask]> >> Hi Rosalyn, >> I agree that we should encourage women to step up and mentor other >>women at Code4Lib. I also see the pairing of women mentors with >>women mentees as fitting into an overall mentorship program, and I >>would be interested in collaborating with you and others to help >>frame it out. > >I think pairing would need to be done pretty carefully and I'm not sure >that only pairing women with women, for example, would be a good thing. > >Even ignoring my belief that it would be sexist, it could cause >practical problems by creating a feedback loop: fewer women in the >community probably means fewer women mentors available for women >learners, leading to slower promotion of women into the community. > >Hope that explains, >-- >MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op. >http://koha-community.org supporter, web and library systems developer. >In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html >Available for hire (including development) at http://www.software.coop/