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kcoyle++ "Code4lib appears to have no rules about who can and cannot form a group. Therefore, if there are some folks who want a group, they should create that group." Joe Montibello, MLIS Library Systems Manager Dartmouth College Library 603.646.9394 [log in to unmask] On 12/7/12 12:50 PM, "Karen Coyle" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >Code4lib appears to have no rules about who can and cannot form a group. >Therefore, if there are some folks who want a group, they should create >that group. If it's successful, it's successful. If not, it'll fade away >like so many start-up groups. > >I'm astonished at the resistance to the formation of a group on the part >of people who also insist that there are no rules about forming groups. >I don't recall that any other proposal to set up a group has met this >kind of resistance. In fact, we were recently reminded that if you want >something done in c4l you should just do it. There is no need to ask >permission. So, do it. > >I think the only open question is: where? e.g. what platform? > >kc > >On 12/7/12 9:25 AM, Salazar, Christina wrote: >> Hi Bohyun, >> >> Thank you so much for raising this again. I'm still interested in such >>a group. >> >> I found the terminology "separate but equal" (that some on this list >>chose to use as a reason not to do this) offensive; it was not at all >>the spirit that I'd originally proposed and no one had suggested either >>separate OR equal other than detractors. In fact I said that anyone >>would be welcome. I completely agree with what you're saying about there >>not being any reason why we women couldn't do both (I think we're >>versatile that way). I'm pretty sure I vaguely recall (maybe) there >>being some (similar) concerns about the local c4ls and I would say it's >>very similar - no one says that just because a person finds say, >>Appalachia.c4l useful, it detracts from the global c4l. >> >> If I can find other women who are willing to work together as a women >>in library technology/coder/whatever support group, I will work to make >>something like this happen. As someone pointed out, we don't need >>blessing from anyone. >> >> If you will be there, I will look for you at the conference and we can >>discuss further. If there are other women who are interested, go us. >> >> Christina Salazar >> Systems Librarian >> John Spoor Broome Library >> California State University, Channel Islands >> 805/437-3198 >> >> p.s. Usual disclaimer about these opinions being my own and not >>reflecting those of my workplace/employers. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of >>Bohyun Kim >> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 8:14 AM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: [CODE4LIB] Question abt the code4libwomen idea >> >> Hi all, >> >> I might upset some people with this, but I wanted to bring up this >>question. First, let me say that I think it is a terrific idea to have a >>code4lib learning group with or without a mentoring program. >> >> But from what I read from the listserv, it seemed to me that there were >>interests in a space for women, NOT as a separate group from code4lib >>BUT more as just a small support and discussion group for just women, >>INSIDE the c4l community not OUTSIDE of it. (Like an IG inside LITA or >>something like that...). >> >> I just wanted to know if there are still women in code4lib who are >>interested in this idea because gender-specific issues won't be >>addressed by a code4lib learning group. (If this is the case, I am still >>interested in participating, and I already set up #code4libwomen IRC >>channel.) Or, do we think that the initial needs that led to the talk of >>code4libwomen will be sufficiently met by having a learning group >>instead? Personally, I don't see why we can have both code4libwomen and >>code4liblearn inside code4lib if there are enough people who think that >>these would make code4lib more useful to them and if this makes code4lib >>serve more diverse interests of their members. >> >> So I am looking forward to hearing form other women in c4l on this! :) >> >> Cheers, >> ~Bohyun > >-- >Karen Coyle >[log in to unmask] http://kcoyle.net >ph: 1-510-540-7596 >m: 1-510-435-8234 >skype: kcoylenet >