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I'm also very interested in being mentored in a program along these lines. I very much like the idea of combining training, mentoring and volunteering - having a specific, practical project to work on, plus someone to talk to about it, would be tremendously beneficial to me. And, you know, not to be completely selfish - doing something useful to others would be great too. Side note (also selfish): I hope that at least parts of this idea will be available to people not attending the conference. I'd love to go to a future conference, but I'm not making it to this one. On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Andromeda Yelton <[log in to unmask] > wrote: > In terms of structure, drupalladder.org and Dreamwidth ( > http://wiki.dwscoalition.org/notes/Dev_Getting_Started ) are good models > for how to scaffold the process for new developers, and to help new > community members regardless of skill level find places they can contribute > and understand the socially accepted workflow. --ay > > > On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Rosalyn Metz <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > > Hey Shaun, > > > > I was actually thinking about some of this this morning, so I'm happy to > > see there is someone else out there thinking about the same things. > > > > I like the idea of some type of structure to a program, I wonder if maybe > > we could combine Karen's idea of training with a mentorship program. > > > > I also like your idea of projects being a way to recruit future > volunteers, > > both because it helps us know where to go to find people, but also > because > > it would help newbies figure out what's out there in the Code4Lib world > (it > > took me forever to realize that the website was something i needed a > > password to in order to vote). > > > > If you already started a wiki page point me to it, I'm happy to start > > fleshing out ideas! > > > > Rosalyn > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Shaun Ellis <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > > > > Hi Rosalyn, > > > I agree that we should encourage women to step up and mentor other > women > > > at Code4Lib. I also see the pairing of women mentors with women > mentees > > as > > > fitting into an overall mentorship program, and I would be interested > in > > > collaborating with you and others to help frame it out. > > > > > > I don't think it needs to be very formal, but it would be important to > > > give some structure to it so folks know what they are getting into, how > > to > > > make sure everyone meets their goals, and measure the effectiveness of > > the > > > program in terms of meeting code4lib goals (such as increasing > diversity, > > > getting more volunteer help, etc.). We can start a wikipage to start > to > > > flesh this out, unless folks would like to use a different forum. > > > > > > In addition to the RailsBridge workshop, I was thinking that Code4Lib > > > community projects would be a great way to both learn and recruit > future > > > volunteers. I was also trying to find the list of maintenance projects > > > wiki page that someone (Jonathan?) was referring to as being top > > priorities > > > for Code4Lib. Is this it? > > > http://wiki.code4lib.org/**index.php/AdminToDo< > > http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/AdminToDo> > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > -Shaun > > > > > > On 12/5/12 3:57 PM, Rosalyn Metz wrote: > > > > > >> So rather than focusing on statistics and math, I'd like to steer the > > >> conversation in a different direction. Let's say Ross is right and > more > > >> women chose to take the survey based on the topic -- maybe that's a > way > > to > > >> get women involved in Code4Lib. > > >> > > >> Karen had the idea of creating a women Code4Lib IRC channel, maybe > that > > >> can > > >> be a place to start. Or maybe we have a few women that are willing to > > >> step > > >> up and be a Code4Lib mentor to other women -- similar to what we do > for > > >> the > > >> new member event at the conference. I'd even be willing to step up > and > > >> organize that if people like the idea. > > >> > > >> Thoughts? > > >> > > >> > > >> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:00 PM, stuart yeates < > [log in to unmask] > > >** > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> On 06/12/12 09:05, Sara Amato wrote: > > >>> > > >>> I'd been staying out of this discussion, but the thought occurs to > me > > >>>> that someone with access to the list of subscribers might run that > > >>>> against > > >>>> a list of traditional boy/girl names, and be able to make some > > guesses…. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> That idea runs into problems both with non-western names (there is > more > > >>> than one kind of diversity) and those people whose experience of > gender > > >>> in > > >>> the workplace have led them to use non-gender-specific identifiers. > > >>> > > >>> cheers > > >>> stuart > > >>> -- > > >>> Stuart Yeates > > >>> Library Technology Services http://www.victoria.ac.nz/****library/< > > http://www.victoria.ac.nz/**library/> > > >>> <http://www.victoria.**ac.nz/library/< > > http://www.victoria.ac.nz/library/> > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > > -- > > > Shaun D. 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