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Just because zoia has always been there (or panizzi) doesn't mean zoia ought to be there going forward. Karen's point I think deserves consideration. If zoia is in violation of the Code of Conduct, then remedial action is warranted. I think in this case, rather then getting rid of the bot, we can just remove the offending plugins. /dev On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Ross Singer <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Karen, I don't think there's any way we could do that. zoia is just > another participant in the channel, just like you or I would be, so it's > exactly like interacting with another person. > > And one thing that I think is *somewhat* important to note before we give > zoia the bum's rush or something before the conference, it's worth pointing > out that zoia (and zoia's predecessor, panizzi) predates the conference > and, in fact, presented at the first one: > > http://www.wallandbinkley.com/quaedam/2006/02_16_panizzi-speaks.html > > I don't mind gagging some of the noisier plugins (or I really like the > idea of a @timeout plugin that shuts people off from zoia for a specified > time period), but zoia is a pretty central code4lib character. > > Also, we generally ritually clear the karma database at the very end of > the conference, which would be weird if zoia wasn't invited. > > -Ross. > > On Jan 18, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Karen Coyle <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > Bill, I realize that. That's opt-out, and anyone new to IRC is not going > to know that. So I am asking for the opposite, which may not be a current > feature of IRC, but that those who wish to see Zoia's replies (and who > therefore know about Zoia) should opt-in. > > > > Another option is a separate channel for the conference, but that may > seem new and foreign to everyone, not just to new users. > > > > kc > > > > On 1/17/13 9:50 PM, William Denton wrote: > >> On 17 January 2013, Karen Coyle wrote: > >> > >>> Is another possibility is for Zoia to be opt-in rather than opt-out? > >> > >> If you say > >> > >> /ignore zoia all > >> > >> your IRC client will ignore everything she says. You still see what > other people say to her, which is a bit odd, but it really makes the > channel a lot clearer. > >> > >> Bill > > > > -- > > Karen Coyle > > [log in to unmask] http://kcoyle.net > > ph: 1-510-540-7596 > > m: 1-510-435-8234 > > skype: kcoylenet > -- Sent from my GMail account.