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If it gets to that point it's the police who'll have to decide whether you were acting in self-defense or not. When things reach the level of violence or a clear threat, it doesn't matter what the convention policy is; it's a question of who committed a crime. Just what are we talking about, anyway? I haven't been following all the threads, since I'm not going to Code4Lib, but if we're talking about situations where people realistically fear violence and are preparing to respond with it, things have completely fallen apart. On 1/24/13 5:40 PM, Ranti Junus wrote: > My question has been addressed. Looks like I am allowed to beat first and > then report to Francis (my hero!) > I will leave up to Francis to decide how he would implement the sanction. > > > thanks, > ranti. > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Francis Kayiwa <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Ranti Junus wrote: >> >>> Let's talk the practical and the implementation. Kinda tired reading the >>> on >>> and on and on discussions. >>> >>> So, um, if I get harrased and I felt threatened, can I beat up that person >>> senseless first for self-defense, then report the incident to... to whom? >>> >>> There's on open question on the github [1] that I haven't seen been >>> discussed yet. At least, I haven't heard the input from this year's >>> organizer: "Do we require a duty >>> officer<http://geekfeminism.**wikia.com/wiki/Conference_** >>> anti-harassment/Duty_officer<http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Conference_anti-harassment/Duty_officer> >>>> >>> >>> explicitly? >>> Is it fair/reasonable/workable to have conference staff be in that role?" >>> >> >> Let's make that me for this year. >> >> I hope you won't have to defend yourself or beat up anyone but do report >> that to me. I will make sure I am *very easy to spot* ;-) -- Gary McGath, Professional Software Developer http://www.garymcgath.com