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Is another possibility is for Zoia to be opt-in rather than opt-out? kc On 1/17/13 12:57 PM, Devon wrote: > Zoia can also be completely muted per user. Could a pointer to '/ignore' > docs be included in the new herald? > /dev > > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Michael B. Klein <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> I agree with the esteemed neckbeard from Pennsylvania. But I would also be >> in favor of muting the snarfer-class plugins, especially @dunno. I've been >> thinking for a while that it might be time to change zoia's alert character >> from @ to something that's not (now) universally recognized as a >> reply/attention character, which results in more unintentional channel spam >> than any of the others. >> >> I think we can also lower zoia's "more" threshold so that each individual >> response has a shorter maximum length, but that's something that's better >> resolved by better participant behavior, not code. >> >> Michael >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Michael J. Giarlo < >> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>> At the risk of getting shouted down in public (wouldn't be the first >>> time!), let me just put this out there: perhaps instead of, like, >> whipping >>> up a Doodle poll for us all to vote on which plugins get temporarily >>> disabled and which ones don't, how about we have a few folks volunteer to >>> gently ask that folks be mindful of what they are asking zoia to do. >> Heck, >>> we can even reflect that in the topic, and make an announcement from the >>> podium. >>> >>> We already ask that channel registrants be mindful of what they say; is >> it >>> much more to ask that that include which zoia plugins they call? >>> >>> -Mike >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Ross Singer <[log in to unmask]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I'd be loathe to gag @tdih, because it's educational and only gets >> called >>>> once or twice a day, but that's me. >>>> >>>> @blockparty is pretty spammy, as is @alpha >>>> >>>> Also @urbandict is probably the most offensive command. >>>> >>>> -Ross. >>>> >>>> On Jan 17, 2013, at 3:12 PM, Adam Wead <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> At the risk of opening a can 'o worms, there are others that utilize >>> the >>>> invective: >>>>> @habla >>>>> @ana >>>>> >>>>> @ana can sometimes return offensive phrases. Sadly, it's one of the >>>> channel's favorites, so I'm reluctant to put it on the (temporary) >>> chopping >>>> block. >>>>> …adam >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 17, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Bill Dueber <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'd like to propose that zoia (the IRC bot that provides help and >>>>>> entertainment in the #code4lib IRC channel) have some of its normal >>>> plugins >>>>>> disabled during conf. With three or four times as many people online >>>> during >>>>>> conference, things can get out of hand. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lots of zoia plugins can be useful during conference; I'm mostly >>>> thinking >>>>>> of stuff whose utility is suspect and whose output covers several >>> lines. >>>>>> Some examples: >>>>>> >>>>>> - @mf >>>>>> - @cast >>>>>> - @tdih >>>>>> - @sing >>>>>> >>>>>> The goal, really, is to try and turn the firehose that the IRC >> channel >>>>>> becomes into something at least plausibly manageable in realtime. >>>>>> >>>>>> I can also make a case for things that newbies will just find >>> confusing >>>>>> (chef, takify, etc.) or offensive (@forecast, @mf again) but I'll >> let >>>>>> others potentially make that case. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -Bill- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Bill Dueber >>>>>> Library Systems Programmer >>>>>> University of Michigan Library >>>>> This communication is a confidential and proprietary business >>>> communication. It is intended solely for the use of the designated >>>> recipient(s). If this communication is received in error, please >> contact >>>> the sender and delete this communication. >>>> > > -- Karen Coyle [log in to unmask] http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet