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On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:40 AM, Jason Griffey <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > The vast, vast, vast, vast majority of people have absolutely no clue how > code translates into instructions for the magic glowing screen they look at > all day. Even a tiny bit of empowerment in that arena can make huge > differences in productivity and communication abilities > This is what it boils down to. C4l is dominated by linux based web apps. For people in a typical office setting, the technologies these involve are a lousy place to start learning to program. What most of them need is very different than what is discussed here and it depends heavily on their use case and environment. A bit of VBA, vbs, or some proprietary scripting language that interfaces with an app they use all the time to help with a small problem is a more realistic entry point for most people. However, discussion of such things is practically nonexistent here. IMO, the first step to removing the magic around coding is to help people recognize opportunities provided by the tools they're already using every day. Once they realize there is no magic, they can pick up anything they like. kyle