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I think I have the information I need at this point, so this would be a good time to let this thread die before it turns into what I tried to avoid in the first place. Josh Welker Information Technology Librarian James C. Kirkpatrick Library University of Central Missouri Warrensburg, MO 64093 JCKL 2260 660.543.8022 -----Original Message----- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Matthew Sherman Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:25 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby Ok folks, we have veered into nonconstructive territory. How about we come back to the original question and help this person figure out what they need to about Ruby and Python so they can do well with what they want to work on. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Ethan Gruber <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > All languages other than assembly are boutique and must be eliminated > like the cancer that they are. > > > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Ross Singer <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > >> What would you consider a "boutique" language? What isn't? >> >> -Ross. >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Rich Wenger <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> > The proliferation of boutique "languages" is a cancer on our community. >> > Each one is a YAP (Yet Another Priesthood), and little else. The >> > world does not need five slightly varying syntaxes for a substring >> > function. >> If I >> > had switched languages every time the web community "recommended" >> > it, I would have rewritten a mountain of apps at least twice in the >> > past five years. What's next, a separate language to put periods >> > at the end of sentences? Just my $.02. That is all. >> > >> > Rich Wenger >> > E-Resource Systems Manager, MIT Libraries [log in to unmask] >> > 617-253-0035 >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of >> > Joshua Welker >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:56 AM >> > To: [log in to unmask] >> > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby >> > >> > I am already a big user of PHP for web apps, but PHP does not make a >> > fantastic scripting language in my experience. >> > >> > Josh Welker >> > Information Technology Librarian >> > James C. Kirkpatrick Library >> > University of Central Missouri >> > Warrensburg, MO 64093 >> > JCKL 2260 >> > 660.543.8022 >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of >> > Riley Childs >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:18 AM >> > To: [log in to unmask] >> > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby >> > >> > No mention of PHP? >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > On Jul 30, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Kurt Nordstrom <[log in to unmask]> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > Whoohoo, late to the party! >> > > >> > > I like Python because I learned it first, and I haven't had a need to >> > > explore Ruby yet. >> > > >> > > I did briefly foray into learning Ruby in order to try to learn >> > > Rails, >> > > and I actually found that my background in Python sort of gave me >> > > brain-jam for learning Ruby, because the languages were so close >> > > together, but just different in some ways. So my mind would be 'oh, >> > > so >> > > it's just <insert Python idiom here> but then, it's not. If I tackle >> > > Ruby again, I will definitely try to 'empty my cup' first. >> > > >> > > -K >> > > >> > > >> > > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Marc Chantreux <[log in to unmask]> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > >> hello, >> > >> >> > >> Sorry comming late with it but: >> > >> >> > >> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:43:33AM -0500, Joshua Welker wrote: >> > >>> Not intending to start a language flame war/holy war here, but in >> > >>> the library coding community, is there a particular reason to use >> > >>> Ruby over Python or vice-versa? >> > >> >> > >> Is it the only choices you have? Because I'd personnally advice none >> > >> of them >> > >> >> > >> I tested both of them before stucking to Perl just because >> > >> >> > >> * it is very pleasant when it come to explore and modify >> > >> datastructures and strings (which library things are). >> > >> * the ecosystem is briliant: perl comes with lot of libraries and >> > >> tools with a quality i haven't found in other languages. >> > >> >> > >> Of course, perl is not perfect and i really would like to use a >> > >> modern emerging compiled language like go, rust, haskell or even >> > >> something on the jvm (like clojure or the emerging perl6) but all of >> > >> them miss libraries. >> > >> >> > >> HTH >> > >> regards >> > >> -- >> > >> Marc Chantreux >> > >> Université de Strasbourg, Direction Informatique >> > >> 14 Rue René Descartes, >> > >> 67084 STRASBOURG CEDEX >> > >> ☎: 03.68.85.57.40 >> > >> http://unistra.fr >> > >> "Don't believe everything you read on the Internet" >> > >> -- Abraham Lincoln >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > http://www.blar.net/kurt/blog/ >> > >>