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I've temporarily set up mirrors at: * http://stuff.coffeecode.net/www.loc.gov/marc/ (MARC21 docs) * http://stuff.coffeecode.net/www.loc.gov/standards/sourcelist/ (standards documentation) Hopefully these won't be necessary for long, or at all :/ On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Kyle Banerjee <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > It appeared very recently (depending on your timeframe) -- but that version > is absolutely necessary because the javascript support in 3.0 couldn't > support what I needed to do. And I had no access to cgi at the time I wrote > it, so server side action that might have accommodated Mosaic aficionados > was out of the question... > > kyle > > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Roy Tennant <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Netscape 4.0 is out? Gosh, but it sure is hard to keep up! >> Roy >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Kyle Banerjee <[log in to unmask] >> >wrote: >> >> > If all people need is to look up MARC tags, there is also the Cataloging >> > Calculator http://calculate.alptown.com/ Unless you want to want to >> feel >> > totally disgusted, avoid looking source code as it was my first >> javascript >> > program which was cobbled together in a day (i.e. it is garbage) and >> hasn't >> > been gone through a substantial revision since 1997. The good news is >> that >> > if you're still on Netscape 4.0, it should work fine... >> > >> > kyle >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Roy Tennant <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> > >> > > As seen on Twitter, OCLC also has our version of MARC documentation >> here: >> > > >> > > <http://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en.html> >> > > >> > > It's mostly exactly the same except for the places where we have >> inserted >> > > small but effective messages that "RESISTANCE IS FUTILE, YOU WILL BE >> > > ASSIMILATED". >> > > Roy >> > > >> > > >> > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Becky Yoose <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> > > >> > > > FYI - this also means that there's a very good chance that the MARC >> > > > standards site [1] and the Source Codes site [2] will be down as >> well. >> > I >> > > > don't know if there are any mirror sites out there for these pages. >> > > > >> > > > [1] http://www.loc.gov/marc/ >> > > > [2] http://www.loc.gov/standards/sourcelist/index.html >> > > > >> > > > Thanks, >> > > > Becky, about to be (forcefully) departed with her standards >> > documentation >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Jodi Schneider < >> [log in to unmask] >> > > > >wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > Interesting -- thanks, Birkin -- and tell us what you think when >> you >> > > get >> > > > it >> > > > > implemented! >> > > > > >> > > > > :) -Jodi >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Birkin Diana < >> > [log in to unmask] >> > > > > >wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > > > ...you'd want to create a caching service... >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > One solution for a relevant particular problem (not full-blown >> > > > > linked-data >> > > > > > caching): >> > > > > > >> > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XML_Catalog >> > > > > > >> > > > > > excerpt: "However, if they are absolute URLs, they only work when >> > > your >> > > > > > network can reach them. Relying on remote resources makes XML >> > > > processing >> > > > > > susceptible to both planned and unplanned network downtime." >> > > > > > >> > > > > > We'd heard about this a while ago, but, Jodi, you and David >> Riordan >> > > and >> > > > > > Congress have caused a temporary retreat from normal sprint-work >> > here >> > > > at >> > > > > > Brown today to investigate implementing this! :/ >> > > > > > >> > > > > > The particular problem that would affect us: if your processing >> > tool >> > > > > > checks, say, an loc.gov mods namespace url, that processing will >> > > fail >> > > > if >> > > > > > the loc.gov url isn't available, unless you've implemented xml >> > > > catalog, >> > > > > > which is a formal way to locally resolve such external >> references. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > -b >> > > > > > --- >> > > > > > Birkin James Diana >> > > > > > Programmer, Digital Technologies >> > > > > > Brown University Library >> > > > > > [log in to unmask] >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > On Sep 30, 2013, at 7:15 AM, Uldis Bojars <[log in to unmask]> >> > > wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > What are best practices for preventing problems in cases like >> > this >> > > > when >> > > > > > an >> > > > > > > important Linked Data service may go offline? >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- originally this was a reply to Jodi which she suggested to >> > post >> > > > on >> > > > > > the >> > > > > > > list too --- >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > A safe [pessimistic?] approach would be to say "we don't trust >> > > > > > [reliability >> > > > > > > of] linked data on the Web as services can and will go down" >> and >> > to >> > > > > cache >> > > > > > > everything. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > In that case you'd want to create a caching service that would >> > keep >> > > > > > updated >> > > > > > > copies of all important Linked Data sources and a fall-back >> > > strategy >> > > > > for >> > > > > > > switching to this caching service when needed. Like >> > archive.orgfor >> > > > > > Linked >> > > > > > > Data. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Some semantic web search engines might already have subsets of >> > > Linked >> > > > > > Data >> > > > > > > web cached, but not sure how much they cover (e.g., if they >> have >> > > all >> > > > of >> > > > > > LoC >> > > > > > > data, up-to-date). >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > If one were to create such a service how to best update it, >> > > > considering >> > > > > > > you'd be requesting *all* Linked Data URIs from each source? An >> > > > > efficient >> > > > > > > approach would be to regularly load RDF dumps for every major >> > > source >> > > > if >> > > > > > > available (e.g., LoC says - here's a full dump of all our RDF >> > data >> > > > ... >> > > > > > and >> > > > > > > a .torrent too). >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > What do you think? >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Uldis >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > On 29 September 2013 12:33, Jodi Schneider < >> [log in to unmask] >> > > >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Any best practices for caching authorities/vocabs to suggest >> for >> > > > this >> > > > > > >> thread on the Code4Lib list? >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> Linked Data authorities & vocabularies at Library of Congress >> ( >> > > > > > id.loc.gov) >> > > > > > >> are going to be affected by the website shutdown -- because of >> > > lack >> > > > of >> > > > > > >> government funds. >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> -Jodi >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >>